Through the Narrow: Should Christians Talk to Satan? By Tami Dykes

Christians have been lied to about the devil and Hell.

We have been told over and over that Hell is Satan’s dwelling place. He lives there and just comes around to bother us sometimes or sends his demons to mess with us. It has been suggested that the devil spends time with those that are in Hell tormenting them and allowing demons to torment them as well.

The link below is from the movie “War Room”, and we see where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) decides she’s had enough of the devil and goes after him. She becomes mad enough about the devil messing things up in her life that she gives the devil a firm scolding and yells at him for a good while.

She starts out with her explaining to him, “I don’t know where you are, devil, but I know you can hear me.” Well, the devil is not omnipresent and he cannot be everywhere at once as God can. I don’t know about you but to me, that seems like a frightening thought to think about, out of all the places on earth the devil chooses to be to cause destruction, he chooses you and your house to do it. Yikes!

But because he can only be in one place in time how does she know she is talking to him and that he hears her? Her assumption makes her believe that he is there and can hear her and yet she goes about scolding him as if she’s an authority to him and he might just be standing in shock that she’s on to him now. She says, “You have played with my mind and had your way long enough. No more. You are done. Jesus is the Lord of this house and that means there is no place for you here anymore.” thinking it’s something he wouldn’t know unless she announces it and now that she has he can’t play those games anymore and has to leave. She seems to think that Christians stand in some devil proof zone and they are promised no more demonic attacks or problems. The problems aren’t the same after salvation, but they are still going to come. The devil still tempts and causes deception in the lives of both the lost and saved; this is why we need to stand on the Word of God. We do not become free from the devil’s lies and destruction the minute we are saved. In fact, we can expect it just as much as a Christian, just as Job was targeted by the devil. 

She then appears to chase him out of her house as she storms outside. She continues to remind him that he can’t have her marriage, daughter, or husband. We learn quickly, “when reading the Word” that marriage was designed by God and God does have set rules for the husband and set rules for the wife. God gives clear instructions on how we are to be in a marriage and the devil seeks to divide the husband and wife and destroy the marriage. Christian marriages are not off-limits to the devil.

The devil can cause trouble with anyone, and anything the devil does is always known by God. God can choose to allowed or not allowed the devil to play with people but it’s always for His own glory and purpose. At the same time we see it is God that can provide the protection and keep the devil at bay if He sees fit, just as it was done for Job in Job 1:10~ “Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land”.

In the movie the lady character tells the devil he is done (although, in reality, the devil will never be done or stop till our Lord throws him into the lake of fire) and she storms back into the house only to come back out a few seconds later to talk more to the devil. Here was where I’m like, “Serious, she’s gonna keep talking to him.” She comes back out and says, “And another thing…” like the devil is still standing outside all wide-eyed and in shock.  Just so you all know, the devil couldn’t care less what you have to say or that you’re mad at him.

She ends up telling the devil to “Go back to Hell where he belongs”. The problem with that is the devil didn’t come from Hell as if it was his personal apartment where he lives and besides, it contradicts the Word of God.

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That’s a very unbiblical teaching and a most ridiculous belief about the devil and Hell that there is. As I’ve mentioned the devil does not live in Hell or control it how he wishes. Instead, the devil is going to be the one tormented in Hell, not in charge of it, because it is God that is in charge of Hell.

What we learn from Scriptures is that God created Hell and it’s only God that has the AUTHORITY to put Satan in Hell, not us. In Matthew 25:41 and 2 Peter 2:4, God says that Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. It’s God that cast demons into Hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment.

Scriptures also, say that the demons cry out in fear of the Lord and do not want Him to torment them. Matthew 8:29~ And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”

Luke 12:5~But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!

Matthew 10:28 says, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Proverbs 14:27~ The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, that one may turn away from the snares of death.

That tells me that we should fear God because He is the Authority overall.

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But common sense says that even if it’s true that Christians can command and send the devil to Hell then who is letting him out or how is he getting out? If people all over the world are practicing this and they believe they are sending the devil “back” to Hell then he is being sent there over and over by different people all the time. Not to mention that most people will say, “In Jesus’ name.” So does this mean saying “in the name of Jesus” isn’t strong enough to keep the devil in Hell? 

It says in 1 Peter 5:8 “the devil prowls around seeking someone to devour”. In Job 1:7 it tells us when God asked where the devil was and he told God he was going to and fro on the earth and walking up and down on it. This devil isn’t in Hell seeking to devour people; he’s on earth seeking to devour people.

Another thing that should be obvious is we should never address the devil ever! Why do people insist on talking to the devil when things go wrong? Because they were taught to do that.  It’s not biblical and so very dangerous. 

Addressing Satan is the worst thing you can do and yelling at him does nothing.

But ask yourself, “Why in the world would I want to address the enemy of God anyway or any demon for that matter?” That’s just giving the devil what he wants, YOUR attention!! Your attention is off of God and on him and now he is robbing you of your time spent with God. Think about it, something goes wrong and we start talking to the devil about how mad we are or how hurt we are and how he is not going to have control anymore. Does this make sense? Your time could be spent praying to God and asking Him for help but instead, it’s spent yelling at the devil.

God tells us in James 4:7-8 to “submit to God and resist the devil“.

We all need to be in prayer for all things but when we are addressing Satan then you have stopped your prayer and turned your back on God to talk with Satan.  This movie teaches people they can address Satan and that’s wrong.  

In the part of the movie where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) losses her cool and starts getting upset and yells at the devil and it appears that she is chasing him outside, I want to know, how does she know she got him outside? How does she know that her yelling did anything? But the worst part is that anyone would be talking to God one day and then the next start talking to Satan? Seems to me that would be an insult to God. Think about that, we pray to our Lord for many things. We go to God for help, to praise Him, to thank Him but one day you feel you are being spiritually attacked so instead of going to God (who has the power to help you and protect you) we start talking to the devil instead like we are his parent and he’s in trouble. Why? He doesn’t care what we think. He isn’t going to all the sudden become remorseful and sad because we yelled at him. The devil isn’t going to be afraid of you and apologize for upsetting you. He is getting exactly what he wants, your attention off of God, and getting you all stressed and angry. We shouldn’t address the devil at all, ever. We only need to address God. 

Satan is very active and he does prowl around and he will until the 1000 year reign of Christ where an angel (the warrior archangel Michael) binds him and he will be thrown into the bottomless pit as said in Revelation 20:1–3~ “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him so that he might not deceive the nations any longer until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be released for a little while.” 

The word archangel means “angel of the highest rank.”  Michael binds the devil, not a human. The archangel Michael has spiritual combat with the devil during the millennial reign of Christ. The Bible also speaks of Michael protecting people as well, in Daniel 12:1 so if we are so tough that we think we can bind Satan and kick him out of our house on our own, why would God need angels protecting us, ministering to us and guiding us?

I mention in an earlier article I wrote, “Steven Furtick’s Heretical Views on Satan & Sovereignty”, (you can find it here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi7xqALAz0h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link )

That we humans are weaker than angels and below them in power and knowledge. (2 Peter 2:11, Jude 1:9) so there is no way we can take on Satan and his demons and there is no way he stands in fear of us. That’s just pride-fullness.

Binding Satan is not within our power. Scriptures say in Acts 19:13-16~ “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

This from Got Questions:

“Jesus had earlier given His apostles specific authority over demons (Mark 3:15). Paul, as an apostle, had received that authority as well (see 2 Corinthians 12:12).”

“..Demons recognize valid authority, and they fear God (see James 2:19). It’s important to note that the authority over demons belongs only to Jesus (see Luke 8:28, 31) and to those to whom Jesus gave it. The demon in Acts 19 says that it knows Jesus and Paul (one of Jesus’ chosen apostles). It refused to recognize any other authority in Ephesus. The demon’s question “who are you?” is chilling in its implications to the seven sons of Sceva and their total lack of authority.”

This is what God wants us to do instead in Eph 6: 10-18~ Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. …13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you maybe able to withstand in the evil day and having done all, to stand firm.

James 4:7-8 says “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.”

That being said, there was one part in the move I agree with and that was when the old woman named Miss Clara says to the wife, “Do your fighting in prayer.” That’s exactly what we need to do. Not address the devil but address God in prayer. Not yell at the devil but run to God in prayer. Not send the devil back to Hell but bring God into it and let God fight the battle. We can’t!

Turning away from God to speak to the devil just because you feel you are strong enough and more powerful than the devil is unbiblical. Just because someone told you that you could do that because you are a Christian is a lie. God is the only one that can fight the devil and protect you. Just stay with God and don’t waste your time talking to the devil.

We all need to stop talking to him, stop yelling at him, stop commanding him to go back to Hell, and don’t give him any more of your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkobFVAVlf8

Decreeing, Declaring, and Other Nonsense

Tulips & Honey – Episode 45

Today, dear ones, on Tulips & Honey we tried something a little different. In an effort to show the need for Biblical truth while making decisions on current events, we’ve pulled some…umm…interesting clips. As we watch and take apart the ideas in each video we hope that this episode will bring some humor as well as some clarification. As ever, we want to tell the truth, give our opinions, and bring a laugh to each of your faces. Below is a list of links, as well as timestamps, for each clip used. Don’t miss the blooper reel, waiting as ever, at the end like a cherry on top! You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as PodbeaniTunesSpotifyGoogle PlayiHeart RadioStitcher, and in video form on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.


Timestamp 00:07:32 – The Only Way to Put on the Armor of the Holy Spirit. youtube.com/watch?v=aIMPnAELgZw

Timestamp 00:12:02 Perry Stone Checks His Phone. youtube.com/watch?v=htLYOg1Xaes

Timestamp 00:19:15 Kenneth Copeland Brings Judgement on Coronavirus youtu.be/OSIrQBGfUtw

Timestamp 00:22:37 Second Kenneth Copeland Clip from March 19th. youtu.be/Ys3CrUdxSGM

Timestamp 00:28:57 Important Video on Lungs. youtu.be/5DGwOJXSxqg


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Is Joyce Meyer’s Theology Heretical? We Talk to Two Prior Employees: Paul & Emily Massey

Is Joyce Meyer’s Theology Heretical?

With Paul & Emily Massey

Not long ago, dear ones, I created a new social media page on Facebook. I had one from years ago, but was locked out, so ended up started over. I immediately connected with family and friends, and found my feed a little concerning. I wanted to see believers in my feed praising God, teaching and edifying one another, so I went to some Biblically solid groups and began ‘friending’ people. One of those was Emily Massey, a dear sister-in-Christ who I ended up talking with via private message. After learning that she and her husband had worked for Joyce Meyer’s I invited them onto our program to discuss why they left and their current outreach to those deceived by her and others teaching like her. She, and her husband Paul, were gracious enough to give us their time and the fruit of that conversation can be heard or seen by today’s episode.

I was encouraged by their heart for those who are being deceived by Meyers and other false teachers. They once worked for her, and enjoyed her teaching, and they have no personal vendetta against her. Their hearts desire is to see the truth proclaimed, the lost saved, and the deceived rescued. We hope that this episode will be helpful for anyone who is unsure about Meyer’s teaching. Please join us in praying for the Massey’s as they continue their ministry. All the information you may need to connect with the Massey’s can be found below where you can also see a time stamped outline, that we hope will be helpful for anyone who wants to skip through the episode to certain points. Don’t miss the blooper reel, waiting as ever, at the end like a cherry on top! You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as PodbeaniTunesSpotifyGoogle PlayiHeart RadioStitcher, and in video form (eventually) on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

  1. Testimony

a. Emily TS 00:01:55

b. Paul TS 00:06:05 

  1. How can pastors/elders/congregations feed a starving believer who has been without discipleship? TS 00:09:05
    • What should the sheep do once they realize they are not being fed Biblical doctrine?
  2. How did y’all meet and get married, and did that change how you thought about theology? TS 00:13:40
  3. When and how did you both end up working for Joyce Meyers? TS 00:17:35
  4. How many volunteers worked there? TS 00:21:20
    • How many employees?
  5. Are you seeing any red flags while you’re working there? TS 00:22:00
  6. Did the recent Benny Hinn apology shake anyone up? TS 00:27:35
  7. Jesus Culture teamed up with Joyce Meyer? TS 00:28:15
    • Who else? 
    • Bands? 
    • Artists?
    • Any other colleges like CFNI?
  8. What would you say to a believer who finds themselves in a church that is compromising, and locking arms with false teachers? TS 00:34:00
  9. 10.Becca went to a Joyce Meyer conference in Phoenix TS 00:36:00
    • Someone punched one of the ushers and had to make announcement. 
      • Does that happen often?
      • Most people coming to these events are the unsaved or deceived…
      • She’s being ministry for over 33+ years…I’m about to turn 33 and this is heartbreaking.
        • She is unrepentant 
  10. 11.What was the theological issues that caused you to leave? TS 00:41:00
    • Sermon, scripture, book? 
  11. 12. What would you say to Joyce Meyer’s if you were able to sit down with her? TS 00:45:45
  12. 13. How did your families respond? TS 01:01:00
  13. 14. What is the Gospel? TS 01:05:25
  14. 15. Joyce Meyer last year stated she “out of balance.” In regard to prosperity gospel? TS 01:07:40

Shenanigans TS 01:16:00

  • Pineapple Pizza
  • Lauren Question 
  • Becca Question

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Interviewing Rikki LeGrand – Part 2

Last Thursday, dear ones, we dropped part one of a two part interview with Rikki LeGrand. We hope that her story, growing up Catholic, being deceived by the WoF movement, and eventually hearing Biblical truth, will be encouraging for anyone who has loved ones stuck in either of those works based religions. We know how discouraging it is to see your loved ones lost or confused, please let us join you in praying for anyone you might be concerned about by telling us about them in the comments below.

If you missed the Shenanigans in our last episode, you’ll be glad to know they’re safely tucked into the end of this one. Not to mention the most bloopers I’ve ever had for the end reel. We hope that those little nuggets of silliness will bring the joy and laughter that only bloopers can! Below is a time stamped outline, that we hope will be helpful for anyone who wants to skip through the interview to certain points. You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as PodbeaniTunesSpotifyGoogle PlayiHeart RadioStitcher, and in video form (eventually) on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Intro- TimeStamp 00:02:00

  1. THANK YOU- To all who supported, donated or shared about a fellow sisters GoFundMe page. We reached the goal, but you can still give into that if you want to. 
  2. Amanda Duba
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  3. Reminder to our Facebook Group- Tulips and Honey Hub
    • No trolling on our Facebook group lol
    • Too salty lol

Questions:

  1. Testimony TimeStamp 00:09:00
    • What scripture was the biggest scripture or book of the bible that was most helpful coming out of the WoF
      • Do you still feel like you are re-learning the bible?
    • How has your family and friends reacted to your conversion?
  2. What teachers/preachers/sermons/books have been encouraging to you coming out of the WoF? TimeStamp 00:17:00
  3. Current Adventures TimeStamp 00:20:00
    • Going to any conferences or concerts this year?
    • What music do you like?
    • What are currently:
      • Reading (book, audiobook, devotional, or bible etc.)
      • Listening to (blogs, podcasts, sermons, teachings, study groups, bible studies etc.) 
    • Any musical adventures coming up in the future?
    • Have you ever thought of doing a blog, podcast, or book in the future?
  4. How can we be praying for you? TimeStamp 00:39:20

Shenanigans: TimeStamp 00:39:55

Lauren’s question:

Baby Yoda or Coffee?

Becca’s Question:

Favorite 90’s show?

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Interviewing Rikki LeGrand – Part I

Today, dear ones, we had the joy of interviewing a sweet sister-in-Christ and beloved friend, Rikki LeGrand. Ms. LeGrand was raised Catholic, but after a period of deep depression she found herself deceived by the Word of Faith movement. God graciously saved her, and she was kind enough to detail how He led her out of that deception. It never ceases to amaze me how patient our God is with us! It took a couple years, but eventually Rikki was able to walk away from the WoF deception altogether.

Lindsay Davis Quote

It is our hope and prayer that this conversation will be helpful to any that are coming out of the WoF movement. We’ve felt the confusion, and the frustration that can come from realizing you’ve been deceived by family or friends, or people you trusted. Below is a time stamped outline, that we hope will be helpful for anyone who wants to skip through the interview to certain points. You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as Podbean, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, iHeart Radio, Stitcher, and in video form (eventually) on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Ephesians 4:32

Intro- Shoutouts: TimeStamp 00:01:35

Questions:

1. Testimony – Timestamp 00:06:40

Childhood

     a. Did you grow up going to church…what kind of church?

2. WoF/Hypercharismatic experiences – Timestamp 00:32:30

3. What were some red flags to you while you were in or red flags for others who are still caught up in the movement? – Timestamp 00:32:30

4. How and when did you hear the true Gospel? – Timestamp 00:47:00

     a. What scripture was the biggest scripture or book of the bible that was most helpful coming out of the WoF

     b. Do you still feel like you are re-learning the bible?

     c.How has your family and friends reacted to your conversion?

5. What teachers/preachers/sermons/books have been encouraging to you coming out of the WoF? 

Shenanigans:

*****Pineapple Pizza?******

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Guest Post – More on Moore by Tami Dykes

Below, dear friends, is a post written by a listener of Tulips & Honey. She wrote this on FaceBook and gave me permission to publish it here on the blog. I hope this gives more clarity on why Beth Moore is such a dangerous teacher. You can find Tami on FB here. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.


Many think that in spite of the bad doctrine that Beth Moore teaches, that she is our sister in Christ and that we should not call her a false teacher or false prophet.
I will show you in this write up why I don’t believe she is a sister in Christ and why I do believe her to be a false teacher.
I believe women need to test any Bible study teacher they are considering.
The best example in Scriptures is the Bereans.
As most know, it’s not easy but necessary.
I am not throwing stones at her or trying to be mean or hateful, I’m trying to warn others that are caught up in her unbiblical doctrine.
As Ezekiel 3:16-21 explains why the warning is needed.
20 Again, if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits injustice, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die. Because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require at your hand. 21 But if you warn the righteous person not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning, and you will have delivered your soul.”
I can’t explain in just one sentence my take on Beth Moore because there is so much that she teaches that’s bad. People need to be warned.
I will post references and examples and my own comments will be in parenthesis.
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(The people that have woke up to her deception agree that much of her bad doctrine is “secretly introduce” into her studies just as this verse says and her followers just don’t see it.)
Scripture says in 2 Peter 2:1-3 of False Teachers and Their Destruction…
“But there were also false prophets
among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.
They will “secretly introduce” destructive “heresies”, even “denying the sovereign Lord” who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed, these teachers will exploit you with “fabricated stories”.
Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”
(Beth Moore definitely has fabricated stories because her preaching is based much on her own thoughts and voices in her head or what she feels in her heart.
She often says, “God told me in my heart” or “God laid it on my heart”, about a special revelation that she claims she has from God, which we are unable to test or find in Scriptures.
From the verse above, we see that heresy which is any belief contrary to biblical doctrine and anything that denies or rejects the teaching of Jesus is destructive.
Would you say that anyone that purposely changes, twists, adds or takes away from God’s Law, God’s Word, has denied and rejected truth? Have they denied Jesus’ teachings?
Yes! Because after they have done this they have made a new and different doctrine, a different Bible, a different God. The Truth has been denied, the Bible has been denied and God has been denied.
She is not a solid biblical teacher and as my friends from Tulips and Honey podcast even say, not only should she NOT teach men but she shouldn’t even be teaching women.
Lauren and Becca, I agree!)
podcast is here:

Deuteronomy 12:32~ “Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.
(So, looking at this verse ask yourself, is Beth doing what God commands? No, she is completely rebelling by preaching and holding authority over men in churches along with so much more.
Is Beth adding and taking away from God’s commands? Yes. Every time she inserts herself into Scriptures or twist Scriptures to fit her message and every time she tells of a personal revelation.)
(This verse below speaks volumes concerning Beth.)
“If you love me, you will keep my commands,” He says, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever” (John 14:15-16).
(Start with the very first sentence of that verse.
Does Beth love Him? Well, does she keep God’s commands?
I’d say no because God commands women to be submissive and not have the authority of men. God commands us to not add or take away from His Word but her extra-biblical teachings (revelations) add and takes away. God commands us to obey God’s Word but her refusal to obey God’s commands tells us she does not love Him.
It’s not like Beth had no idea she was teaching this way or she had no idea she was teaching people bad doctrine or she didn’t know she was in rebellion. She has been confronted on many things by many well known Bible teachers so she can’t act shocked and say, “Ooops I accidentally taught something wrong”.
So this is a clear indication she is in rebellion and does not love God’s Word.)
(The last part of that verse tells us Jesus knows that keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.)
(My thought here is this if keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.
With Beth not keeping His commands, what’s that say about the Holy Spirit in her?
What’s that say about Beth? Yeah, not good.)
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(Biblical doctrine teaches us the nature and the character of God.
Beth changes His character and makes God someone He is not.
A good example is when she tells everyone to have a “romance” with Him as she states in a simulcast of what she calls mighty makers.
You tell me if the following is Biblical doctrine)…
From Chapter 3 Ministries:
“According to Mrs. Moore, “mighty makers” (there are 6 of them) are things we can do to make sure we get on a list that will be in heaven of the mighty men and women who were willing to stand up and fight the good fight with the shield of faith and sword of the Spirit. No Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it. What was given was her belief that “There will be “chronicles of the wars that have taken place on the globe when we get to heaven”.
(Wow, I have never read in Scriptures of a list called “Mighty Makers” that will be in heaven.)
“Mrs. Moore has a lot of confidence in her “mighty makers,” She said this about them. “There is no way around any one of them.”
“She felt very strongly about the first one. She said this about it, “This is foremost, number one, and it’s the part of it that makes me want to sob my eyes out.”
“Again, no Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it.”
Her Mighty Maker #1 is this:
“The audacity to make an unseen Savior the supreme romance of your life.”
“According to Mrs. Moore, that is what we were created for.”
(Really? This is the reason God created us, men and women? To have a romance with Jesus?
Ask yourself here, is this Biblical doctrine?)
“Mrs. Moore said that when we get to heaven, in spite of all we’ve been through on earth, if Jesus became the driving desire of our lives, we will say to him, “You know what? You were a blast. You were a blast. My life wasn’t a blast; a whole lot of it wasn’t very fun. But I’m gonna tell You something, You romanced me and You wooed me and You pursued me and I think You are a blast.”
The lady taking notes at this simulcast says: “I am very confident that I will not say these words to Jesus, nor would I ever speak to him in a way I would deem disrespectful. In heaven, I will be overtaken by his awesomeness, not chatting with him like he was my high school boyfriend.
Additionally, during the simulcast, no verses were given that spoke about romance with Jesus.”

2015 Living Proof Live Simulcast Review Part One


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(Beth also shows how she’s not worried about preaching in churches every time she preaches in churches. This comes across to many that God is probably more than fine with her breaking His commandments of women preaching to men.
Yes, I’m aware that women preaching in churches is only a secondary issue but it doesn’t mean it’s not an issue at all. What it means is, they are not obedient to God’s commands…and what did God say about those that keep His commands? That they love Him. Beth is not keeping to His commands every single time she preaches and hold authority over a man. What example is that to the body of believers that set in church and watch her do this?
As scriptures says, many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Beth is teaching women all over the world that this is ok. Women are following their dangerous conduct.)
John MacArthur says “Titus 2:3 shows it’s ok for women to teach but they are to teach the young. He says mature women are to be reverent in their behavior.
“Reverent behavior would be obedience to the Word of God. Would you be a reverent woman if you were a woman preacher?”, “You can’t say you are a woman preacher preaching the Bible and be by virtue of that very roll dishonoring God and His Word.”, “All these women running around as preachers, supposedly teaching the Bible, are defying what the Bible says.” “The most popular woman preacher today (referring to Beth) says, “Well Paul’s not Jesus and Jesus told me to Preach”.
(Here’s a thought…How can God say in His own Law that He forbids a woman to teach or have authority over men and then Jesus decides to go against that and tells Beth she needs to preach to men and women in churches? Is this a sister in Christ? A woman that disobeys the Law and contradicts God’s own Word and puts words in God’s mouth is a sister in Christ? No. Sorry, she is not. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtSRfNO5xo
When we accept the Bible as God’s Word to us (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20–21), we have a solid foundation for our doctrine.
Second Peter 1:20 says that “no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation.”
“There is a right interpretation of everything God says, and it is our job to discern that meaning, not create an interpretation to suit our tastes.” (And it shouldn’t be Beth’s interpretation either when she claims new prophecies for today’s time, making the Scriptures nonauthoritative.)
https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-doctrine.html
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(She is a false Prophet. Why do I say that? Because she has publically stated for YEARS, probably over 10 years, that God gives her messages and she says God has even told her things that she says will come true in the future, just as Prophets do.
An example would be in these video several years back,
Where Beth Moore Predicts God Will soon Unite All Sectors of Christendom.)
Videos here:

(She says in one video, “God has placed it on my heart to tell you”….and continues saying God is telling her to get prepared for something that’s coming…….hmmm, what’s coming? Awakening and
downpour is coming. She tells the audience that it will be Christians that will be the ones arguing with them about it and others will say, “that’s not what it looks like”.)
(Basically, she means we are going to say, “No, that is not biblical.” She calls us bullies and mean spirited if we argue about it or disagree with her prophecy.
The words “Go Home” don’t seem so bad when you hear her say this about other Christians.
The other video she says, God tells her that He will unite every sector and every denomination.)
She says: “I believe that out of His great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us.
She says: “As clearly as I know how to discern what He laid upon my heart, I feel like, I am bringing it to you, as I understand it. I think what we will see if not now, very, very soon is Him (God) pushing this point with us over and over”.
(We know many religions believe very differently from those that stand on the Word of God as the ultimate authority.
The Word of Faith, International House of Prayer, Mormons, Buddhists, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witness and lots more believe very differently and are unbiblical that we can not be yoked together with.
This verse below tells us God has no intention of uniting His Church with darkness.)
2 Corinthians 6:14-16~Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”
(If God walks among us how can we unite with churches that pray to the dead or even angel’s just because they bare the name church?
Why would God allow us to hold hands with other Christians that have idols and look to statues for answered prayers and those that have love of money just because they bare the name, Christian?
Would God be pleased that we have united with churches that don’t believe Jesus is the Son of God but instead a brother of Satan? What about uniting with churches that believe if you name it then you can claim it. Would God allow those churches just because they bare the name church? Will God allow them to be ok where they are and still unite us all?
Biblically, there should be no divisions between true believers of Christ. Don’t we need to be like-minded to be united and in agreement with the Word?
With those churches we are divided, we are not like-minded and we don’t have the same beliefs.)
1 Corinthians 5:11~But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
2 John 1:10-11~ If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
1 Corinthians 1:10~ I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
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* (Another prophecy, where she talks about God telling Beth that He wants her to take money to a bus stop to give to a person that will show up later on, so she has to wait. She says God gave her the vision.
In the video, she sounds like a medium explaining the vision in certain detail as given to her from God. But, what if, God didn’t say it? She is crediting God with this prophecy.
But look at this warning God gives.)
Deuteronomy 13:1-3~”If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”
(Satan masquerade as light remember. Every time someone speaks of a personal revelation they always say, “God told me”. Why don’t people say, “Satan told me?”
Because saying that doesn’t make anyone special.)
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From: The End Time
Romans 16:17~Final Instructions and Greetings
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Beth Moore’s Direct revelation from a voice in her heart that she says is God, is an “obstacle”. How? You will hear Moore deliver a “teaching” she received directly from Jesus, and then say “test it,” but we can’t … because it’s from her own mind and not from the Bible. We have to rely on her and her special relationship with Jesus for the “teaching”. In so doing, she has inserted herself between us and Jesus, creating an extra step and a barrier directly to Him that everyone else can get simply by reading His word. Without her teaching from a vision, you would not know about it, so the teaching depends on HER, not Jesus.
–the false teacher “takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit” (Colossians 2:8). They take you captive by the method above. Once you start buying into Moore’s or other false teachers’ vision-teachings, you HAVE to keep following them in order to hear it explained again, or to receive more teachings. It comes from them so you have to keep following them to see what they will say next. Pretty soon her philosophy and deceit have captured you.
—For certain people have crept in unnoticed (Jude 1:4). Easy enough- they creep, and they’re unnoticed.
So, sister, do not feel bad if you’ve been duped or feel that your discernment skills are slow to grow.
Info taken from this link…
Discernment Lesson: Deconstructing Beth Moore’s most popular story
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“Beth explains some of her revelations aren’t always right. She says, “God kept repeating a word over and over to my heart: unbelief. Unbelief! I kept sensing Him saying, “My people are suffering from unbelief!” At the time I felt that this word was a separate message from the material He was beginning to give me for Breaking Free… As clearly as a bell, God spoke to my heart through His Spirit and said, “The answer to your question is the sin of unbelief.”
She continues: … Suppose I heard God correctly. (I have certainly misread Him before!). Why do you think not believing God personally and lavishly loves us could be a sin? ”
(Moore, “Breaking Free,” p. 211-212).
**Take careful notice of the contradictions in her statement above. The message from God was as clear as a bell, but she has misread God before and is worried she may have misread Him again. How does she misread a statement that is as clear a bell? Simply put, if she has spoken a single statement that was declared to be from God but was not really from God, then she is a false prophet. This is extremely serious. Moore does not take seriously the danger of falsely proclaiming that she is speaking the words of God.”
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“In this next example of non-Biblical revelation, Moore relates the story of a woman who approached her during a speaking engagement in Louisiana:
Beth says: With obvious anointing, she told the story we’re about to study, then she said: “I don’t know you, Beth. I have no idea why God sent me with such a message to give you, but He told me clearly to say these words to you: ‘Tell her that her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much’” (Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 91).
She later continues regarding this story with: He simply sent a woman to deliver His word—that I was forgiven. He whispered to my spirit, “Now, My child, be at peace.”
Oh, how I would love to be that woman to you today. Allow me to pull up my chair right in front of you, look you in the eye, and tell you what He told me to say: “Your many sins have been forgiven—for you love much.” Go in peace
(Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 95).
In this case, Moore has placed non-Biblical revelation above the written Word of God. The Bible was not sufficient to convince Moore that her sins were forgiven, but this stranger who claimed to get a word from God was able to. Now, Moore wants you to trust what she says about your forgiveness rather than point you to the God-breathed words of the Bible for that assurance. We should heed the warning of Scripture:
[For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (NASB, 2 Corinthians 11:13-14).]
Trust the Bible, not messages from Beth Moore or anyone else no matter how spiritual or even Christ-like they may sound.”
https://thekingsdale.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/beth-moore-false-teacher/
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Link below discussed 3 things to look for with False teachers.
Quotes taken from this link:
//www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html
#1.) How do they treat the teachings of Christ? (She abuses it)
In 2 John 9, we read, “Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”
(Beth doesn’t treat the teachings of Christ accurately. She has changed the teachings of Christ many times. Every time she changes the story in Scriptures to match an event in her life or to insert herself.
She changes it when she lessens the authority of Scriptures by teaching women that Scripture is not the final authority but that personal revelation is just as authoritative. God’s Word says…“Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God.” (Ouch)
Then there is this new one where
Beth changes Scriptures when she tweets out this.)
“I believe wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth. But the persons themselves – Paul and Jesus – are not equals. I know this is hard for some to swallow, but Paul is not our Savior. Paul would be horrified, I believe, by the way, he has been deified.” ~ Beth”
(The reason the whole Jesus/Paul came up was because it’s in the writings of Paul that women are said not to be in authority over a man. Several other women have used the same argument, “I’m not a follower of Paul, I’m a follower of Jesus” as if the red letters are all we are to obey. ALL of Scripture is God’s Word, not just the red letters. This is a contradiction because she is referring to Scriptures here. She says she believes Scriptures is authoritative but then turns around and says Paul’s and Jesus are not equal after that.
Two things here…First, if she truly believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.” Why did she see the need to distinguish the difference between Paul and Jesus? In her tweet, no one said anything about holding Paul above Jesus in any way. Why did she throw that out there?
Second, if she believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.”
why does she teach more from her own special Revaluations?
Beth holds more closely to her own personal revelation (the voice in her head that she believes is from God.) than she does to Scriptures.
As a result of this tweet, this brought into question both Paul’s person and his teachings. When you look at that tweet there are a lot of people very confused as to what she is meaning and why she said that.)
The link below states: “While it is true that “Paul and Jesus – do not equal” it is true that the words of Christ and the words of Paul ARE equal. Why? Because Jesus stated of himself “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) meaning he was God in the flesh.
The Word of God, all of it from Genesis to Revelation is Christ’s Words.”
If You Are Not Following Paul, Then You Are Not Following Jesus
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#2) “Does this teacher preach the gospel?
The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements “God loves you,” “God wants us to feed the hungry,” and “God wants you to be wealthy” are not the complete message of the gospel.
As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, “Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.” No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. “If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:9)
…..(Beth does preach a different gospel when she changes her mind about homosexuality) and says, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and says that she “exceeded Scripture.”
(This is lessening the sexual sin they live in.)
The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
#3.)Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord?
(No, Beth regularly shows Pride and rebellion. She doesn’t turn away from her mishandling of Scriptures or repent from it.)
Gotquestions: Jude 11 says, “They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s “rebellion.” In other words, a false teacher can be known by his “pride” (Cain’s “rejection” of God’s plan), “greed” (Balaam’s prophesying for money), and “rebellion” (Korah’s promotion of himself over Moses).
(Beth is certainly in “rebellion” and known for her “pride”. Beth has pridefully “rejected” the authority of Scriptures and rebelled against God’s commands by ignoring what God has said about women preaching and so much more.)
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(Examples of her “fabricated stories” that can not be linked to Scriptures found below.)
*She tells a story in a video about her being on a porch and God gave her a vision.
Beth said, “And tonight I’m going to do my absolute best to illustrate to you something that God showed me out on that back porch. He put a picture…I’ve explained to you before I am a very visual person…so He speaks to me very often of putting a picture in my head. And it was as if I was raised up looking down on a community, as I saw the church in that particular dimension- certainly not all dimensions, not even in many, but in what we will discuss tonight, the church, as Jesus sees it, in a particular dimension.”
(People, Beth is telling everyone, that God gave her a vision and special revelation that is not in Scriptures. It’s so dangerous to tag God’s name on something like that. )
*Then there is another story when Beth Moore says: “(God) began to say to me, ‘I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth, and boy you write this one down, and you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it….'”
*Another story where Beth says God told her to brush an old man’s hair at an airport and she actually argues with God about it.
Where is her fear of the Lord???
*Another story she says, “Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.”
Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in the near future for a number of days off. “God spoke to my heart” one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.”
* Then in another video (which I mentioned earlier), Beth Moore Predicts God Will Unite All Sectors of Christendom.
She says, “I believe, that out of his great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us…Listen, test the spirits and pray about this to see if it is so, but as clearly as I know how to discern what he has laid upon my heart I feel like I am bringing it to you as I understand it. But I think what we will see, if not now, very very soon, is him pushing this point with us, over and over and over, because I think it is very possible that what has satisfied you before will no longer satisfy you now.”
Scripture instead says this,
Romans 16:17~I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles “contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them”.
(Does she have correct biblical doctrine???)
*In another one, Beth says God tells her a future prophecy. You will hear Beth Moore talk about scoffers who will come and speak out against the awakening and downpours; the outpouring that she believes God is telling her is coming.
Beth quote:
“What God began to show me, is that it would not just come from the…mean spirited. The scoffers…I believe that God put on my heart…please test the spirit, pray and see if this…is confirmed to you in prayer and in the study of the Word… I believe that He placed it on my heart that the scoffers will have an alternative answer for everything; an alternative for every single thing we see…there will be an alternative. They will not see it as the hand of God; an alternate answer. Unity will be called defection. Brokenness will be called instability. Grace will be called a compromise. And the genuinely prophetic will be called false teaching. You see if this does not happen.” ~Beth
(Beth Moore has claimed over and over that she is receiving words from the Lord that are not found in Scriptures and she is also receiving very specific prophecies of future events from the Lord.)
https://living4hisglory.wordpress.com/tag/beth-moore-future-outpouring-prophecy/
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From John MacArthur:
“False teaching denies the authenticity, inspiration, authority, or inerrancy of Scripture”.
(Beth disobeys when she preaches to men, her authority is not Scriptures, she puts words in God’s mouth that God did not say, such as, we were all created to have a supreme romance with God, then she injects herself into stories of the Bible. )
John MacArthur:
“False teachers are not committed to Scripture. They may speak of Jesus and the Father, but the heart of their ministry will not be the Word of God. They will either add to it, take away from it, interpret it in some heretical fashion, add other “revelations” to it, or deny it altogether.”
(Beth Moore isn’t committed to Scriptures when she rebels against God’s commands and adds to God’s Scriptures with her personal revelations.)
https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B140214/the-pathology-of-false-teachers
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(This quote below is one I already touched on earlier where she speaks of Beth changing her belief on homosexuality.
From Justin Peter’s site. Link below)
* Beth wrote this many years ago where she said, “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
(Yes, I agree with Beth on this….. the Gospel means Good News and she is sharing the gospel to the sinners but, then some years later she feels bad and changes her mind and even has it removed from her book.
When being questioned about her belief on homosexuality she makes this comment).
Beth explains, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and adds that she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Why did she change her mind?? She said, “She did so because she worried about what it would do to a “13-year-old struggling with an onslaught of sexual feelings and temptations who has no idea what to do with them”.
She should have never removed that section! If she truly cares about that 13-year-old then she should want her to be confronted with her sin. Beth Moore should want her to realize she is a sinner who faces the wrath of God. And Beth Moore should want her to know that complete forgiveness and transformation are freely offered in the glorious Gospel of Christ. The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
One wonders if Beth Moore really does believe that homosexuality – not just the behavior, but the identity and desire – truly is a deadly sin.
One wonders if she truly does believe that homosexuals can be completely transformed and if she really does “know plenty of believers who have been set free from homosexuality.” If she has indeed witnessed it and does indeed know all of these many people set free from this sin, why, why why would she remove that section?
1 Corinthians 6:9–11 ~Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will …
People are not lost because they are homosexual. They are homosexual because they are lost. The most hateful thing we could do to anyone is to know the truth but not tell him. The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
Justin Peter’s write up https://justinpeters.org/2019/07/my-thoughts-on-beth-moores-blog-post/
(Answer this? How does her earlier statement make homosexuals feel demonized when what she was saying was the Good News, the Gospel?
Here it is: “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
Did she truly “overshoot scripture by a mile there”? Is preaching the Gospel to the lost overshooting Scriptures? Do you believe she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Well, is sharing the Gospel with sinners meant to help the sinner see their sin as evil? Yes! That’s not wrong to show them they are indeed a sinner that is wretched and filthy. But she’s saying that’s wrong.
The Gospel saves people and more times than not it hurts the sinners to hear how they deserve hell but Jesus was punished for them. That’s what makes the gift of salvation precious to them.
When she recanted her older belief of sharing the Good News, THAT is when she exceeded Scriptures.
That is when she denied Jesus and the Gospel.
What she teaches today about homosexuality is silencing the truth which does them no favors and denies them forgiveness and hope in Jesus. They need to find salvation through the truth of the gospel, not ear tickles.
Here is a link that discusses the letter to Beth about her beliefs on homosexuality.
My friend Michelle Lesley shares this:
https://michellelesley.com/tag/beth-moore/
Here is another link where my dear friend Marsha West has shared
Beth calling an open homosexual a brother. Very concerning!

Beth Moore, Sam Allberry Promote Gay Activists, Calls Them “Brothers”


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(The verse below addresses who are truly brothers and sisters on Christ.)
Matthew 12:48-50 ~
But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
The qualifier for being a brother or sister of Christ is “doing the will of the Father.” The ultimate will of the Father is that we love, trust, and obey His Son (John 3:36; 2 Thessalonians 1:8; Romans 2:7–8). When we believe in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ and surrender our lives to His lordship, God adopts us into His family and considers us “joint-heirs” with His Son, Jesus (Romans 8:17; 10:9–10).
* (So is Beth doing the will of the Father? No)
*(Is she loving, trusting and obeying the Son? The answer is from John 14:15-16~ “if you love me you will keep my commandments”. Think carefully about this.
She’s not keeping His commandments which means she is not “obeying” Him AND that means she must not “love” Him either-or “trust” God as the authority.)
*(Does she believe in the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ?
No!
If she did then she would be sharing the gospel to homosexuals and not remove the part of her book that shows her sharing the gospel. She would be more concerned about their souls then hurting their feelings with the truth.)
*(Has Beth surrendered her life to Jesus? Well, does she conform to what is written? No)
*(So answer yourself…looking at that verse, is she a sister in Christ? )
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Paul Washer says, “The Devil uses men to advance his cause against the Kingdom of Christ.”
There are two proclaimers, one is men of truth and the other side are proclaimers of lies.
“They are liars because they do not speak according to what is written.”
False teachers do the following:
* “Young man when you get up into the Pulpit, no one needs to hear from your heart, they need to hear from God’s Word.” (Beth talks all the time about what’s on her heart.)
* “They are hypocritical because they pretend to have a spirituality that is from God but in actuality at best their spirituality is carnal and at worst, it’s demonic”. (The voices Beth hears could be demonic because we know it’s not biblical. )
* “How do you know if one’s spirituality is from God? Because it conforms to what is written.”
(Beth has a hard time doing that.)
* They trivialize the gospel with material prosperity and self-realization.
* Deny the gospel by diminishing the uniqueness of Christ.
* People such as Beth want to unite all religions. Paul Washer says, “They would share in each others Gods and affirm one another”. (Sounds familiar when you see those videos)
* when a church uses anything but the gospel to draw people to the church. ( Beth drawing people by using personal revelations or visions from God…. a fabricated story of God speaking)

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(We do need to be praying for Beth that she would repent and obey God’s Word. I do not wish to hurt her, I don’t enjoy exposing her or the conflict that it causes.
However, God has commanded we warn of false teachings, mark those that deceive and expose them.
I’m trying to help people from being lead astray by her unbiblical teachings just as I was. If it wasn’t for Justin Peter’s sharing truth of false teachers I’d probably still be in it.)

Guest Post – Presuppositional Apologetics & the Word of Faith Movement

Below, dear ones, is the guest post I had the honor of writing for my friend and brother-in-Christ, Pastor Jim. The original link is here. Please continue in prayer for Jim as he is overseas hard at work for the glory of God.


Hello, dear ones, my name is Lauren Hereford and I write the Tulips & Honey Hub blog. I’m so thankful for the opportunity to write this guest post for my dear friend, and brother in Christ, Jim. I’m joining with you all in praying for him, to see much fruit, and to return home safely. What a blessing it is, though many of us cannot go, we can pray for those that God has sent. Thank you, Jim, for giving me the honor of writing in your place while you diligently serve the Lord. 

I want to talk, briefly, today about the role of apologetics, and particularly presuppositional apologetics, in reaching those caught up in the heretical teachings of the Word of Faith movement. For over a decade I was immersed in the unbiblical teachings of TBN prosperity gospel peddlers. Unfortunately, for as bad as that is, what happens in the small local churches far exceeds what we see on the glossy screens of these well-produced shows. What you don’t see on the TV is the multitudes of image bearers being taken advantage of, abused, or even rejected as unrepentant and faithless goats. How do you rise to heights of prestige in these circles? Well, clearly only those who are healthy and wealthy are favored of God. Obviously, they are the ones with the most faith, with the greatest measure of repentance.

But what does this have to do with apologetics? It was an insistence of Scriptures authority which destroyed the false doctrines I had so tenaciously held to. Once God graciously saved me in July of 2015, it was the overarching question of standards that led me. By what standard? Who says you must be healthy at all times? Who says God wants you rich? If God was the highest authority, and His Word was sufficient, it was far easier to refute the same falsehoods which had so thoroughly doped me before. Why? Because, prior to salvation, my authority rested in two places. The first was my own opinion, my “instinct” about what I was being told. The second was in the prophetic word of those deemed spiritually gifted, or anointed. It was in that fashion that I had come to believe a number of unbiblical teachings.

While I did not know at the time that I was being taught presuppositional apologetics, I was greatly blessed by those who used it to share the Gospel, and to refute the false claims of atheists, agnostics, and cults. It helped me to get grounded in the Word of God as my final authority. Now, whether I’m talking to a Mormon or an atheist, I have Gods Word, not mine or some other sinful man, to argue from. I can share with the cults my past, how deceived I was, while consistently bringing them back to the Bible. It is Scripture alone that teaches truth, and Scripture alone which must be our standard. Many blessings, beloved brethren, please be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved!


Tulips & Honey’s First Episode – Yoga Q&A

Consider this the second season of the podcast, dear ones, a relaunched name and all the fun that goes with it! In this episode, Becca and I answered some of the questions we received about the original episode on Yoga. We talked about acupuncture, reiki, chiropractors, and Pilates. Included in the mix is a whole lot of fun stuff, including…and I’m not even joking…goat yoga, Area 51, zombie apocalypse, and the DC vs. Marvel debate.

I hope you’ll enjoy this episode as much as my co-host and I enjoyed recording it! If you have any more questions please feel free to send them our way, and we’ll answer them on future episodes. If you have any hate mail send that too, and I’ll be sure to forward it to Becca. You can hear the podcast at my host site, YouTube, Google, iTunes, Spotify, and more. All the links are neatly tucked into this tree here. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

AfterThought – Episode 17: New Age Infiltration with my Hubby

Dear ones, I am so sorry that it took so long for this episode to drop today. There were some technical difficulties this morning. It’s available now. In this episode my husband and I talk about the religions we grew up in, and how they resemble one another. We go into detail about the roots of the New Age movement and how it’s connected to the Word of Faith movement. I hope that this conversation will be edifying, education, and entertaining. We tried to lighten up this heavy subject to avoid moving into the Twilight Zone mood. I in no way want to feed into the modern obsession with the paranormal, but instead want to raise the alarm about these connections and the concern I have for the infiltration into the church.

You can listen to the podcast on iTunes, Podbean, YouTube, GooglePlay, Spotify, and CastBox all of which are linked here. Following that link you can also see my other social media platforms to get connected to. If you enjoyed this episode please don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe, and share! As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

AfterThought Episode 12: Deadly Doctrines – Co-Hosted by Becca.Berean

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Today, dear ones, I dropped the 12th episode of AfterThought. This time, as promised, I’m joined by Becca the Meme Master Berean. We discussed growing up in the Word of Faith movement, her involvement in Bethel/Hillsong type churches and schools, and why their teaching is so dangerous. Becca graciously shares her desire to see those who are lost and hurting within this movement saved out of it.

I pray that this episode will be a blessing to you all. Please join me in praying for Becca’s family as she lovingly shares truth with them. You can find this episode at my host site Podbean, iTunes, Google Play, and Spotify. If you’re enjoying the podcast please like, comment, subscribe, and share to help get the word out. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.