Through the Narrow: Should Christians Talk to Satan? By Tami Dykes

Christians have been lied to about the devil and Hell.

We have been told over and over that Hell is Satan’s dwelling place. He lives there and just comes around to bother us sometimes or sends his demons to mess with us. It has been suggested that the devil spends time with those that are in Hell tormenting them and allowing demons to torment them as well.

The link below is from the movie “War Room”, and we see where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) decides she’s had enough of the devil and goes after him. She becomes mad enough about the devil messing things up in her life that she gives the devil a firm scolding and yells at him for a good while.

She starts out with her explaining to him, “I don’t know where you are, devil, but I know you can hear me.” Well, the devil is not omnipresent and he cannot be everywhere at once as God can. I don’t know about you but to me, that seems like a frightening thought to think about, out of all the places on earth the devil chooses to be to cause destruction, he chooses you and your house to do it. Yikes!

But because he can only be in one place in time how does she know she is talking to him and that he hears her? Her assumption makes her believe that he is there and can hear her and yet she goes about scolding him as if she’s an authority to him and he might just be standing in shock that she’s on to him now. She says, “You have played with my mind and had your way long enough. No more. You are done. Jesus is the Lord of this house and that means there is no place for you here anymore.” thinking it’s something he wouldn’t know unless she announces it and now that she has he can’t play those games anymore and has to leave. She seems to think that Christians stand in some devil proof zone and they are promised no more demonic attacks or problems. The problems aren’t the same after salvation, but they are still going to come. The devil still tempts and causes deception in the lives of both the lost and saved; this is why we need to stand on the Word of God. We do not become free from the devil’s lies and destruction the minute we are saved. In fact, we can expect it just as much as a Christian, just as Job was targeted by the devil. 

She then appears to chase him out of her house as she storms outside. She continues to remind him that he can’t have her marriage, daughter, or husband. We learn quickly, “when reading the Word” that marriage was designed by God and God does have set rules for the husband and set rules for the wife. God gives clear instructions on how we are to be in a marriage and the devil seeks to divide the husband and wife and destroy the marriage. Christian marriages are not off-limits to the devil.

The devil can cause trouble with anyone, and anything the devil does is always known by God. God can choose to allowed or not allowed the devil to play with people but it’s always for His own glory and purpose. At the same time we see it is God that can provide the protection and keep the devil at bay if He sees fit, just as it was done for Job in Job 1:10~ “Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land”.

In the movie the lady character tells the devil he is done (although, in reality, the devil will never be done or stop till our Lord throws him into the lake of fire) and she storms back into the house only to come back out a few seconds later to talk more to the devil. Here was where I’m like, “Serious, she’s gonna keep talking to him.” She comes back out and says, “And another thing…” like the devil is still standing outside all wide-eyed and in shock.  Just so you all know, the devil couldn’t care less what you have to say or that you’re mad at him.

She ends up telling the devil to “Go back to Hell where he belongs”. The problem with that is the devil didn’t come from Hell as if it was his personal apartment where he lives and besides, it contradicts the Word of God.

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That’s a very unbiblical teaching and a most ridiculous belief about the devil and Hell that there is. As I’ve mentioned the devil does not live in Hell or control it how he wishes. Instead, the devil is going to be the one tormented in Hell, not in charge of it, because it is God that is in charge of Hell.

What we learn from Scriptures is that God created Hell and it’s only God that has the AUTHORITY to put Satan in Hell, not us. In Matthew 25:41 and 2 Peter 2:4, God says that Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. It’s God that cast demons into Hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment.

Scriptures also, say that the demons cry out in fear of the Lord and do not want Him to torment them. Matthew 8:29~ And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”

Luke 12:5~But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!

Matthew 10:28 says, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Proverbs 14:27~ The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, that one may turn away from the snares of death.

That tells me that we should fear God because He is the Authority overall.

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But common sense says that even if it’s true that Christians can command and send the devil to Hell then who is letting him out or how is he getting out? If people all over the world are practicing this and they believe they are sending the devil “back” to Hell then he is being sent there over and over by different people all the time. Not to mention that most people will say, “In Jesus’ name.” So does this mean saying “in the name of Jesus” isn’t strong enough to keep the devil in Hell? 

It says in 1 Peter 5:8 “the devil prowls around seeking someone to devour”. In Job 1:7 it tells us when God asked where the devil was and he told God he was going to and fro on the earth and walking up and down on it. This devil isn’t in Hell seeking to devour people; he’s on earth seeking to devour people.

Another thing that should be obvious is we should never address the devil ever! Why do people insist on talking to the devil when things go wrong? Because they were taught to do that.  It’s not biblical and so very dangerous. 

Addressing Satan is the worst thing you can do and yelling at him does nothing.

But ask yourself, “Why in the world would I want to address the enemy of God anyway or any demon for that matter?” That’s just giving the devil what he wants, YOUR attention!! Your attention is off of God and on him and now he is robbing you of your time spent with God. Think about it, something goes wrong and we start talking to the devil about how mad we are or how hurt we are and how he is not going to have control anymore. Does this make sense? Your time could be spent praying to God and asking Him for help but instead, it’s spent yelling at the devil.

God tells us in James 4:7-8 to “submit to God and resist the devil“.

We all need to be in prayer for all things but when we are addressing Satan then you have stopped your prayer and turned your back on God to talk with Satan.  This movie teaches people they can address Satan and that’s wrong.  

In the part of the movie where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) losses her cool and starts getting upset and yells at the devil and it appears that she is chasing him outside, I want to know, how does she know she got him outside? How does she know that her yelling did anything? But the worst part is that anyone would be talking to God one day and then the next start talking to Satan? Seems to me that would be an insult to God. Think about that, we pray to our Lord for many things. We go to God for help, to praise Him, to thank Him but one day you feel you are being spiritually attacked so instead of going to God (who has the power to help you and protect you) we start talking to the devil instead like we are his parent and he’s in trouble. Why? He doesn’t care what we think. He isn’t going to all the sudden become remorseful and sad because we yelled at him. The devil isn’t going to be afraid of you and apologize for upsetting you. He is getting exactly what he wants, your attention off of God, and getting you all stressed and angry. We shouldn’t address the devil at all, ever. We only need to address God. 

Satan is very active and he does prowl around and he will until the 1000 year reign of Christ where an angel (the warrior archangel Michael) binds him and he will be thrown into the bottomless pit as said in Revelation 20:1–3~ “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him so that he might not deceive the nations any longer until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be released for a little while.” 

The word archangel means “angel of the highest rank.”  Michael binds the devil, not a human. The archangel Michael has spiritual combat with the devil during the millennial reign of Christ. The Bible also speaks of Michael protecting people as well, in Daniel 12:1 so if we are so tough that we think we can bind Satan and kick him out of our house on our own, why would God need angels protecting us, ministering to us and guiding us?

I mention in an earlier article I wrote, “Steven Furtick’s Heretical Views on Satan & Sovereignty”, (you can find it here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi7xqALAz0h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link )

That we humans are weaker than angels and below them in power and knowledge. (2 Peter 2:11, Jude 1:9) so there is no way we can take on Satan and his demons and there is no way he stands in fear of us. That’s just pride-fullness.

Binding Satan is not within our power. Scriptures say in Acts 19:13-16~ “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

This from Got Questions:

“Jesus had earlier given His apostles specific authority over demons (Mark 3:15). Paul, as an apostle, had received that authority as well (see 2 Corinthians 12:12).”

“..Demons recognize valid authority, and they fear God (see James 2:19). It’s important to note that the authority over demons belongs only to Jesus (see Luke 8:28, 31) and to those to whom Jesus gave it. The demon in Acts 19 says that it knows Jesus and Paul (one of Jesus’ chosen apostles). It refused to recognize any other authority in Ephesus. The demon’s question “who are you?” is chilling in its implications to the seven sons of Sceva and their total lack of authority.”

This is what God wants us to do instead in Eph 6: 10-18~ Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. …13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you maybe able to withstand in the evil day and having done all, to stand firm.

James 4:7-8 says “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.”

That being said, there was one part in the move I agree with and that was when the old woman named Miss Clara says to the wife, “Do your fighting in prayer.” That’s exactly what we need to do. Not address the devil but address God in prayer. Not yell at the devil but run to God in prayer. Not send the devil back to Hell but bring God into it and let God fight the battle. We can’t!

Turning away from God to speak to the devil just because you feel you are strong enough and more powerful than the devil is unbiblical. Just because someone told you that you could do that because you are a Christian is a lie. God is the only one that can fight the devil and protect you. Just stay with God and don’t waste your time talking to the devil.

We all need to stop talking to him, stop yelling at him, stop commanding him to go back to Hell, and don’t give him any more of your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkobFVAVlf8

ChristMarked: No better words can come from me than the word of God – by Troy Paylor

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27, 31‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.””
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:6-7‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned—every one—to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth.
Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:5-7, 10‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:6-9‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭8:34-35‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:3‬ ‭ESV‬‬



The above was written by my brother-in-Christ and friend Troy Paylorfrom Christ Marked. You can hear his testimony here,and as always beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Throwback Thursday: Pray and Study

Throwback Thursday: This was originally posted on April 29th, 2017.

I want to start by making very clear here that I am in no way intending on heaping condemnation onto my brothers and sisters in Christ. I mean only to edify the body and help explain a possible reason for the lack of prayer and study within the church.

I also want to clarify that this is not going to make sense to those who are not believers but are instead Christians in name only. I know this for certain because I never understood this the entire decade I was pretending to be a Christian. I was perfectly happy being spoon fed the word and even happier to take your word for it. This is the reason why false teachers are so successful, we can see them on every “Christian” channel preaching a different gospel, a different Jesus, and a different god. A more common term for this would be heresy, there are more notable speakers teaching heresy, or even worse, blasphemy, then there are teachers proclaiming the true gospel.

I began my Christian faith wondering how we got to the place where famous preachers could announce loudly that Christ wasn’t the only way to Heaven and still manage to have any credibility. I think I can say assuredly it’s because of a lack of prayer and study within the body of true believers.

Let’s start with prayer. Before I was saved prayer was something I did out of obligation, it was done with a general sense of annoyance. The first few months after I got saved that changed, slowly at first, and then like a snowball falling, collectively the idea of what prayer began to drive me to my knees. The annoyance then became the need to do anything else besides study and prayer. What changed?

Study changed.

Before being saved I was perfectly happy to listen to TV evangelists twisting scripture to fit their worldly desires. I also enjoyed anything that was new information, as one enjoys the discovery channel. It didn’t have to be accurate, and I certainly wasn’t going to crack open my dust collecting Bible to check. Once I was saved the Word of God became the primary source, and great men expounding on it needed to be consistently vetted. More so than that, the Word became spiritual food. I felt a hunger for it I had never felt before, the desire to immerse myself in the Bible and to understand what I was reading was overwhelming.

This change led me to a greater understanding of both prayers, and study. What is prayer for the believer? It is one of the greatest gifts God has given us.

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Study of an Apostle’s Hands (Praying Hands) by Albrecht Durer

We are granted the tremendous honor of coming before the throne of God with our thanksgiving, supplication, and requests. This is the very God who had saved me from the chains of sin, a pointless life, and from eternal damnation. I get to come before Him, He hears me. Never once have I ever deserved the honor of coming before the King of Kings!

What brought me to this conclusion? Understanding what the Word is. John teaches us that in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. That Word became flesh…when we pick up Gods Word we need to recognize that on every page we are seeing Holy Spirit inspired Words. The majesty of this is too great for me to understand, however, what I do see is the tremendous blessing we have been given to have the Word.

Can you imagine what it must have been like to have been an Apostle before the cross? The Holy Spirit hadn’t come, Christ hadn’t risen, all they have was the OT to go on. They were waiting for the Kingdom to come! They thought Christ was about to bring it down. What do you mean you’re going to die? What about the Kingdom? All the way up until Jesus Christ, Messiah, Lord, Savior, ascended the disciples were asking about the Kingdom. It wasn’t until the Holy Spirit came that they finally understood the OT. We have the benefit of reading that very revelation they were given.

Can you imagine also what it must be like to live in a country where this Word is illegal? How precious every page must be to believers, and every second they can spend reading it. It is easy to take for granted the amazing blessing some of us have to freely read the Word. I even have the Septuagint on my phone, along with every type of translation. How blessed is this generation? As blessed as we are ignorant of said blessing.

So, what do you do if you’re one of the many believers who does not understand the Word, and find very little joy in reading it? Or perhaps even less joy in praying? First, let’s remember that there are those out there particularly gifted in these areas, we should not compare ourselves to one another. Our comparison should always be Christ. Secondly, let us remember that we need to be growing in grace and knowledge. If you want to enjoy these things but the desires of the world are overpowering you bring it before the throne in prayer. Ask to thirst for God’s Word, ask God to help you love Him with your whole heart, mind, soul, and strength. We can do nothing apart from Him.

Finally, friends, be good Bereans. Paul called the Bereans more noble then the Thessalonican’s because they accepted the Word while searching the scriptures to see if it was true. We need to take every thought into captivity, which means we cannot continue to accept what the TV evangelists, or even our own pastors, preach without checking its accuracy against the Word of God. Not partial scriptures, but the whole counsel of the Word.

I hope this helps you all grow in prayer and study, friends, to show yourself approved.

Scripture
2 Timothy 2:15

ChristMarked: The Church, Blood Bought Sinners – By Troy Paylor

The Church, Blood Bought Sinners

“I thank my God in all my remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine for you all making my prayer with joy, because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now. And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. It is right for me to feel this way about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel. For God is my witness, how I yearn for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus. And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.”Philippians‬ ‭1:3-11‬ ‭ESV‬‬


As I look at this passage and known I’ve went through this same passage twice and every time that I come back to it, there seems to be more treasure in it than I found before, speaking of the exhaustive word of God and all the blessedness of His word. While this is true my message is to the church, mainly the Providence Baptist Church where I’m so glad to be a part of, but doesn’t exclude others from this. For I can as with Paul more clearly now that ever before get a deeper understanding of his words. Although my imprisonment isn’t in a jail, yet I can’t be at my church with the members there who with me share in a commonality that unites us all that we are blood bought sinners of Christ Jesus. Christ died in our place and rose again and church what great news that is, that our Savior who born of a virgin lived a sinless life, died in our place and rose the third day. Oh like Paul, how I long to see you and miss you all with the affection of Christ Jesus, though mine isn’t perfect I’m without brothers and sisters in Christ, though we shouldn’t let this stop us, in fact we shall advance. More than ever during this time we should be spreading the gospel of Christ Jesus, for we worship the Risen one who is seated at the right hand of the Father.

How I do long to see you all, yet I pray for you all too, that you may seek the word of God and be in communion with Him, so that you may continue grow in knowledge and discernment so that you may approve what is excellent and honor and glorify God in all you do. Continue in being sanctified by the power of the Holy Spirit for soon we shall all be together again, and at that point rejoice, but even now we shall rejoice, what a wonderful time more than ever to draw closer to our Savior. Dig deeper into the word, for the Bible is living, active, and sharp, pruning the fruits in us that are of the flesh and water and nurturing the fruits of the Spirit and in all may you all seek Christ Jesus and Him crucified. To God be the Glory, Forever and ever, amen. “So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:11-14‬ ‭ESV‬‬.


The above was written by my brother-in-Christ and friend Troy Paylorfrom Christ Marked. You can hear his testimony here, and as always beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

You Must Repent and Believe: By Troy Paylor from Christ Marked

You Must Repent and Believe

by Troy Paylor from Christ Marked

When we ultimately tell people all they have to do is make a decision for Christ or accept them into their hearts, what we are really doing is forgetting how monumental 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.”2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:17‬. That is why Christ says repent and believe, it means forsake the old man which is sinful and throw your life upon Christ, because ultimately man is so sinful that he needs to turn, but can’t do so without the Divine power of God. When the old passes away, when you throw away clothes you can’t fit anymore or that are too big, you don’t pick them back up later on. If they are in the trash you get rid of them, so the same goes with the old man. Christ calls all to repent and believe, because unless man sees the emptiness of his work to glorify himself, he will never know why he must forsake his self effort to repent and believe in Christ.

The wages of sin is death, but the glorious truth is that eternal life is in Christ Jesus, but man must forsake himself and believe in Christ, for isn’t this the attitude and action of the man in Matthew 13:44? “”The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:44‬ ‭ESV‬‬. He sells all and forsakes all for Christ and getting to know Him. Paul says the same, “But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—”Philippians‬ ‭3:7-9‬ ‭ESV‬‬. So as I shall say, man shall not even enter the gates of Heaven, without the righteousness of Christ, and that dear friend is by repentance and believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. As our cry before conversion is “Free me from this body of death that Holds me Hell-bound!! Dear God have mercy upon me, for I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ!!


The above was written by my brother-in-Christ and friend Troy Paylor from Christ Marked. You can hear his testimony here, and as always beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

To Judge or Not To Judge

Our brother-in-Christ, Patrick Studebaker from Cave to the Cross Apologetics, joined us for a cross over episode! We talk about discernment, warning about false teachers, and responding to criticism. We detailed the difference between slander, and discernment, and walk through Scriptural definitions of heresy and blasphemy. It was such a blessing to have our brother explain righteous judgement Biblically, as well. We all hope that you’ll be edified by this episode, and encouraged if you’ve ever been rebuked for sharing truth. Below is a time stamped outline, that we hope will be helpful for anyone who wants to skip through the episode to certain points. Don’t miss the blooper reel, waiting as ever, at the end like a cherry on top! You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as PodbeaniTunesSpotifyGoogle PlayiHeart RadioStitcher, and in video form on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Intro – Cross over with A Cave to the Cross Apologetics: Patrick Studebaker 

https://cavetothecross.com/ep62/

https://cavetothecross.com

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFr4iNerb0HEEfidOyGmnmg

  1. Slander TS 00:18:00
    1. Slander (etymologically a doublet of “scandal,” from OFr. esclandre, Latin scandalum, “stumblingblock”) is an accusation maliciously uttered, with the purpose or effect of damaging the reputation of another. 
    2. As a rule it is a false charge (compare Matthew 5:11); but it may be a truth circulated insidiously and with a hostile purpose (e.g. Daniel 3:8, “brought accusation against,” where Septuagint has diaballo, “slander”; Luke 16:1, the same Greek word). 
    3. Warnings, condemnations and complaints in reference to this sin are very frequent, both in the Old Testament and New Testament. Mischievous “tale-bearing” or “whispering” is condemned (Leviticus 19:16Ezekiel 22:9). 
    4. There are repeated warnings against evil-speaking (as in Psalms 34:13Proverbs 15:28Ephesians 4:31Colossians 3:8James 4:111 Peter 3:10), which is the cause of so much strife between man and man (Proverbs 16:27-30), and which recoils on the speaker himself to his destruction (Psalms 101:5140:11). 
    5. Especially is false witness, which is “slander carried into a court of justice,” to be condemned and punished (Exodus 20:16Deuteronomy 19:16-21; compare Proverbs 12:1714:5,2519:521:2824:28). 
    6. Special cases of slander more than usually mean are when a wife’s chastity is falsely impeached by her husband (Deuteronomy 22:13-19), and when one slanders a servant to his master (Proverbs 30:10). 
    7. Even a land may be slandered as well as persons (Numbers 14:36). Slanderers and backbiters are mentioned in some of Paul’s darkest catalogues of evildoers (Romans 1:29,302 Corinthians 12:202 Timothy 3:3). 
  1. Heresy  TS 00:37:25
    1. from a Greek word signifying (1) a choice, (2) the opinion chosen, and (3) the sect holding the opinion. 
    2. In the Acts of the Apostles ( 5:17 ;  15:5 ;  Isaiah 24:5  Isaiah 24:14 ;  26:5 ) it denotes a sect, without reference to its character. 
    3. Elsewhere, however, in the New Testament it has a different meaning attached to it. Paul ranks “heresies” with crimes and seditions ( Galatians 5:20 ). 
    4. This word also denotes divisions or schisms in the church ( 1 Corinthians 11:19 ). In  Titus 3:10 a “heretical person” is one who follows his own self-willed “questions,” and who is to be avoided. 
    5. Heresies thus came to signify self-chosen doctrines not emanating from God ( 2 Peter 2:1 ).
  1. Blasphemy TS 01:05:00
    1. The Old Testament At least five different Hebrew verbs are translated “blaspheme” in English translations. 
    2. Translators choose “blaspheme” when, for instance, the verbs “curse” (qalal [l;l’q]), “revile” (gadap [@;d”G]), or “despise” (herep) are used with God as the object. 
    3. No special verb is reserved for cursing or insults directed at God.
    4. However, to curse or insult God is an especially grave sin. It can be done by word or by deed. There is little distinction between the sinner who deliberately abuses the name of the Lord ( Le 24:10-16 ), and the one who deliberately flouts his commandments ( Nu 15:30-31 ). 
      1. For both, the death penalty is prescribed. 
    5. Similarly, the prayer of the Levites in Nehemiah 9 calls “awful blasphemies” all that Israelites did when they made the golden calf (9:18).
    6. David’s flagrant sin with Bathsheba may be called a blasphemy ( 2 Sa 12:14 ), but a more likely translation is that David has “made the enemies of the Lord show utter contempt” (NIV). 
      1. Instead of testifying by lifestyle to the character of the Lord, David’s action confirms the blasphemous belief of the nations that the Lord is no different from any other national god. 
    7. The New Testament. The Greek root blasphem- [blasfhmevw] can be used of strong insults thrown at other people ( Mark 15:29 ;  Acts 13:45 ;  Eph 4:31 ;  1 Peter 4:4 ), or even unjust accusations ( Rom 3:8 ), but it is more usually used of insults offered to God (e.g.,  Rev 13:6 ;  16:9 ). 
      1. Jesus is accused of blasphemy for pronouncing forgiveness and for claiming a unique relationship with God ( Matt 26:65 ;  Mark 2:7 ;  John 10:33 ).
  1. Righteous Judgement TS 01:16:00
    1. https://www.gotquestions.org/do-not-judge.html
    2. John 7
      1. https://www.biblestudytools.com/esv/john/7.html
  1. Christians Should be Balanced – We talk about this several times all through out.
    1. James 2
      1. https://www.biblestudytools.com/james/1.html

Shenanigans: TS 01:30:00

Becca: Nacho Libre or Napoleon Dynamite?

Patrick: What is a movie from your childhood that scarred you?

Lauren: Weirdest response or comment from a listener?

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Interviewing Rikki LeGrand – Part I

Today, dear ones, we had the joy of interviewing a sweet sister-in-Christ and beloved friend, Rikki LeGrand. Ms. LeGrand was raised Catholic, but after a period of deep depression she found herself deceived by the Word of Faith movement. God graciously saved her, and she was kind enough to detail how He led her out of that deception. It never ceases to amaze me how patient our God is with us! It took a couple years, but eventually Rikki was able to walk away from the WoF deception altogether.

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It is our hope and prayer that this conversation will be helpful to any that are coming out of the WoF movement. We’ve felt the confusion, and the frustration that can come from realizing you’ve been deceived by family or friends, or people you trusted. Below is a time stamped outline, that we hope will be helpful for anyone who wants to skip through the interview to certain points. You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as Podbean, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, iHeart Radio, Stitcher, and in video form (eventually) on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Ephesians 4:32

Intro- Shoutouts: TimeStamp 00:01:35

Questions:

1. Testimony – Timestamp 00:06:40

Childhood

     a. Did you grow up going to church…what kind of church?

2. WoF/Hypercharismatic experiences – Timestamp 00:32:30

3. What were some red flags to you while you were in or red flags for others who are still caught up in the movement? – Timestamp 00:32:30

4. How and when did you hear the true Gospel? – Timestamp 00:47:00

     a. What scripture was the biggest scripture or book of the bible that was most helpful coming out of the WoF

     b. Do you still feel like you are re-learning the bible?

     c.How has your family and friends reacted to your conversion?

5. What teachers/preachers/sermons/books have been encouraging to you coming out of the WoF? 

Shenanigans:

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The Mark of Christ on a Young Man – with Troy Paylor

Hello, dear ones, I hope this post finds you all doing well. Today we’ve dropped an episode with another very exciting announcement. Our young brother-in-Christ, Troy from ChristMarked, joined us in the program for a Bible study on 1 John 1:1-14 as well as allowing us to get to know him better. He walked us through his testimony, and how he came to decide to go to seminary, to blog, and now to podcast. We hope that this new Scripturally focused podcast will be edifying to you all, as it certainly was for us.

While Becca and I are uncomfortable teaching through God’s Word with our mixed audience, we’re happy to have Troy join us and lead us through a study of Scripture. We’re also honored to be able to announce he will be joining our podcasting channel, dubbed the Hub, where he’ll be making his way through the Bible. You can, of course, listen across all major podcasting platforms such as Podbean, iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, iHeart Radio, Stitcher, and in video form (eventually) on Youtube. We also now have a Patreon page, which you can find here https://www.patreon.com/Tulipshoneyhub. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Troy Paylor Outline

1. Intro – Troy Paylor from ChristMarked

2. Instagram: TimeStamp – 00:01:30

a. Personal @trp1256

3. Testimony: TimeStamp – 00:04:08

4. Blog: TimeStamp – 00:22:35

a. https://christ-marked.webnode.com/tour-dates/

b. Ministry @christmarked

i. Loved a latest post about Jerry Bridges

1. Trusting God by Jerry Bridges

a. https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38NYC7Z6QHI3V&keywords=jerry+bridges+books&qid=1580188167&sprefix=Jerry+Bridges%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-2

c. https://www.facebook.com/Christmarked/

5. Seminary Student: TimeStamp – 00:29:00

a. When did you notice the call?

b. Ministry Plans

c. Apologetics?

6. Favorite books, teachers etc: TimeStamp – 00:38:45

7. Bible Study Plans and Books: TimeStamp – 00:52:15

8. John 1:1-14 ESV: TimeStamp – 01:02:24

a. The Word Became Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,[a] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

b. 9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own,[b] and his own people[c] did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son[d] from the Father, full of grace and truth.

9. Podcast: TimeStamp – 01:11:50

a. Name

b. Type of info

Shenanigans: TimeStamp – 01:21:43

Lauren

• Question: Is you had to be bitten or stung by the world worst bugs which one would it be? Wasp, spider, or ants?

Becca

• Question: What is your playlist like?

• Listener Question: What music do you listen to right now?

Throwback Thursday: Then Who Spoke to Me?

Back in October of 2018 I addressed the subject of “hearing from God”. I don’t have any updates to add, and I hope this is a blessing to anyone who missed the original, which you can find here.

Hello dear friends, I hope you are all doing well today! Recently I saw a post with a sentence which was quoted as written by – God. It wasn’t a Bible verse, so it was most certainly not God speaking to us. It was, instead, an inspirational statement either from her mind, or someone else’s. It reminded me of a Twisted Tuesday I had begun writing a while back, this one here, of course! The cannon is closed, God has spoken to us through His prophets and eventually His Son, no new revelation will be given. No new revelation is needed. We know this Scripturally, as my media between paragraphs will show, but if you want a helpful article here is one from GTY. It still begs the question, with so many professing Christians today claiming to hear from God, just who is speaking to them?

I couldn’t find a verse that folks use to give Scriptural credence to what they’re receiving actually coming from God. It seems perhaps they are either misunderstanding Scripture, or ignoring it. I think for many they’re actually referring to the Holy Spirit placing something on their hearts, guiding or leading them one way or another. That’s totally different than claiming to speak for God, or that God speaks through you. It’s also highly likely that, since it’s not being taught from our pulpits today, many believers do not understand that the Bible is God speaking through men by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This means if God is still speaking in that way, we need to open the cannon and start adding to it. That’s a dangerous, and sinful, idea which we need to stand against strongly. So many of the cults we see today began with someone adding to Gods Word, whether through traditions or ‘revelations’ given to one person. It always accompanies an abandonment of salvation through grace alone, and faith in Christ alone. This is why it’s important we make clear that God is not giving new revelation today.

Before I was saved I thought God was always speaking to me. I constantly had a word, had a feeling, had a revelation, none of which were Biblical. I didn’t even understand the Bible, honestly, I read it and it went in one ear and out the other. So what was I hearing? Most of the time it was my conscious, which has even graciously been given to the lost to keep them from the wickedness our hearts are truly capable of. We see many so callous that they’ve shut down that conscious, and are thus able to commit horrible atrocities. Many other things influence our minds, like the entertainment we watch or listen to. Our friends and family can suggest things which lead to thoughts later on down the road. All this leads up to the need to test every thought against Scripture before acting on it. Somethings aren’t covered in the Word, like jobs and the like. It’s a great idea to take your thoughts to prayer, and to other believers that have been in the faith longer.

The most important thing to remember, beloved ones, is that God is not going to audibly speak today. As brother Justin Peters says “If you want to hear from God read your Bible. If you want to hear from Him audibly, read it out loud.” We should never put words in Gods mouth, not even to be inspiring or encouraging. Gods Word is the Bible, adding to it is as dangerous as taking away from it. If you’re hearing audible voices claiming to be God you need to go to your Pastor and Elders. Ask for prayer, and stay in prayer yourself. Study doctrine, friends, doctrine is a weapon against heretical and nonBiblical beliefs and attitudes. As always, dear brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Through the Narrow: The Dangers of Empowerment and Identity – By Gina Cook

In my last article titled, “The False and the Deceived,” I highlighted the fact that the occult has entered into solid, evangelical churches and it’s doing so in very unsuspecting, backdoor kinds of ways. The ways I brought up were through the altered teachings of the empowerment of the Holy Spirit and our identity in Christ. Now I’m going to follow up by going a little deeper into these specific teachings and why they are so attractive, who are the evangelical teachers peddling them and what other things they are teaching after you invest in their material.

As I briefly mentioned in the previous write-up, the Bible wants us to know about the empowerment of the Holy Spirit indwelling in us (Ephesians 1:13, Titus 3:5, 1 Corinthians 2:10-1612:11, John 14:16-17). It’s a beautiful and needed aspect of our Christian life. Without the empowerment of the Holy Spirit in us, we could not be saved and we could not truly please God, love God or obey God. Without the Holy Spirit illumining the Word to us we would not understand God’s Word and would still have our minds darkened.

So it’s crucial to understand Christians are identified in and empowered by the Lord and what that all means, but we must also understand what empowerment and our identity do NOT mean because that is where deception creeps in.

As John said, “He must increase, but I must decrease.” Sadly, in our flesh, we want to be special, to be in control, to see ourselves higher than they ought to. Many of us want to rub elbows with the Lord; to be God in many ways, sometimes without even realizing it.

Teachers who falsely teach on identity usually make the focus on yourself seem like a godly thing and that sells well. It’s truly remarkable how self-centered it is, yet to see so few pick up on that. It’s about flesh-petting power trips and “changing the world because I finally realize my potential, in Christ.” No, that is not how the world is changed. The worldly, lost souls find change through the power of the Holy Spirit through the preaching of the Gospel-the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Romans 1:16).

Seeking power and identity in the wrong places and wrong ways only puff up and corrupts. Just as we see in pagan circles, people just keep seeking more and more power, self-awareness and validation from the spiritual realm, and can’t seem to ever find enough.

Before I get into certain teachers that push these twisted teachings, it’s important to know what other terms and beliefs you can find once delving into their studies. This is not to say that people who use any of these terms are all the same, are all unsaved, false teachers or that all attach the same definition to these terms, yet when we come across a teacher using these terms, we should pay close attention and look deeper into what they mean by them.

One term/teaching is “incarnational ministry” or being “incarnational”. To these teachers, we must be incarnational to reach people for Jesus. It’s about us “being Jesus,” being incarnate like Christ. Truth is, the only One Who can be Jesus is Jesus. The only One who can be God incarnate, which means God taking on human flesh, is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. To imply we are incarnational is to give the impression that we become carbon copies of Jesus. Incarnational ministry focuses on the person “being Jesus” instead of being Christ-like, which puts emphasis on their puffed up identity and gifting rather than focusing on Him and the Gospel message they are supposed to share. These teachers emphasize “living the good news/the Word” over preaching it and preaching it boldly. It becomes more about showing their faith rather than sharing it. The Bible does say, “Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven,” but that’s in the context of our godly lives giving evidence of the Gospel/True God that we are simultaneously preaching — our good works are in no way the power unto salvation-only proof of His saving power in us.

1 Corinthians 2:2 says “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified”.

1 Corinthians 1:21 says, “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe.”

(For more on incarnational ministry you can check this link out: https://www.compellingtruth.org/incarnational-ministry.html )

Not only is it severely wrong/dangerous to teach that we can “be Jesus”/incarnational, but it’s also just as dangerous to believe our works and special gifting is the main power and influence on the lost. Incarnational ministry is closely related to “friendship evangelism” where people put more salvific value in the relationships they build than they do with the Gospel being preached (More on that can be found here: https://www.gotquestions.org/friendship-evangelism.html).

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Another popular thought in this movement is that “Jesus never taught in a classroom and doesn’t want you concerned about studying theology”. This is to suggest that Jesus isn’t concerned about teaching the Word as much as He is about living it out. The Bible says in James 1:22, “But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.” Yet, this does not mean Jesus is against the study/teachings of Scripture or that He never taught the Word to groups of people sitting there listening to Him teach. We see in Scripture Jesus teaching in the synagogues and we read His instruction that we are to be studying the Word and rightly handling it (Matthew 5, Mark 10, Luke 4:15, John 8, 2 Timothy 2:15). How can we know how to live for God if we don’t know the Scriptures?

Another term, a practice, they may teach is contemplative prayer or “listening prayer”. It’s based on the false teaching that God talks to us in our prayer time and gives us personal, specific truth or new revelation. They will present this as praying to seek God’s direction. Many times it’s centered on reading/praying a Scripture verse and listening to what God then communicates to you during this quiet time. Listening for God outside of Scripture and feeling some sort of spiritual presence is the focus for them. They typically use Scripture as a part of a meditative practice that’s found in other false religions, where a person repeats a word over and over and tries to clear the mind of everything else to hear from the spirit realm. Jesus never taught us to listen to Him during prayer time. When He taught us how to pray it was all about our communication to Him, not the other way around (Luke 11). Contemplative prayer is more related to the mystical practices of the occult. In the occult truth is sought in self, nature, spirits, and forces but never in the true Lord Jesus Christ and His written Revelation to us.

Another teaching/practice that is usually found amongst these others; uniting with all denominations. There is this huge push to put aside doctrinal differences because Jesus “ate with sinners”. They teach to unite for the common goal of spiritual growth. We are to build relationships with those in other (false) religions to “bring the love and peace of Christ” in their lives. What is going on is Satan is the Father of Lies, false religions and false unity. The bigger and stronger you make this false unity, the more dangerous its influence becomes. It’s leavening the whole lump. God tells us very clearly, “Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?” 2 Corinthians 6:14-15.

The last teaching/practice I’m going to address (and there is much more I could mention) is the slow push to remove you from pastoral oversight and care by overemphasizing the importance of “life groups,” “small home church groups” or something of that nature. It’s insinuated that this is a warmer more biblical and productive fellowship, not the colder typesetting you get in a large church gathering under a qualified pastor. Please don’t misunderstand me, I know small gatherings for Bible study aren’t a bad thing necessarily and can provide great fellowship and instruction. Also, I know there are solid churches encouraging some form of small group gatherings, but for these teachers, close, intimate study groups are more about “connecting” than studying Scripture. You are told to build very strong relationships with these few people in your group and learn together under the study of the teacher’s material. As the studies go on and the more material you invest in, the teachings get more twisted and less likely to be held in the light of Scripture. What seems to happen, without anyone in the group discerning and sounding the alarm, is vocabulary starts to change, the Gospel starts to be watered down while relationships in the group and in the “missional work” they do together are strengthened. The scary part is the teachers behind much of this know the Gospel message for the most part. They can convincingly recite the Gospel enough on their websites and in their books to keep many alarms from setting off. God tells us, “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction” in 2 Peter 2:1.

Again, not all teachers that use any or all of these terms are to be lumped into the same category but if anything, one must be very cautious about being under their teachings and influence, no matter what good things they have done or taught.

These teachers are perhaps not all well-known but they are making an impact. Some are associated with well-known and beloved evangelical preachers many of us have been taught and blessed by. Others are lone wolves. Some are organizations with several people at the head. Here are just a few of many who have taught one or all of the things mentioned above, ones that seem to have more influence in evangelical churches:

-Alan Hirsch, author of several books including The Forgotten Ways

-Jeff Vanderstelt; lead teaching pastor at Doxa Church in Bellevue, Washington, and says to be “the visionary leader of the Soma Family of Churches and Saturate resource ministry”. He is author of the book “Gospel Fluency” and the Saturate material. (He is the teacher I mentioned in my previous article; the one a previous church of ours had studied under.)

-The NAMB- North American Mission Board of the Southern Baptists. It is filled with these teachers. You will see some of these teachings here: Rethinking mission: Incarnational presence – NAMB

-Eugene Peterson; a Presbyterian pastor and author of the Message “Bible”. In his interpretation of John 1:14: “The Word became flesh and blood, and moved into the neighborhood.” This is a popular translation of the verse for those who teach incarnational ministry. By the way, the actual translation of this verse… “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.” Not even close.

Bob Roberts Jr., founding pastor of NorthWood Church in Keller, Texas who boasts and is very active in “loving people from every faith, and pioneering relationships with those that are usually shunned by Christians.”

“I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.” 1 Corinthians 4:6.

It imperative that we understand our spiritual identity is about what He has done for us so that we may live for and serve God. When we are identified in Christ, the Son is the focus, not us. We have been reborn and adopted, redeemed and restored, for God’s glory alone. Truly we are unworthy servants who should be doing what we ought to do because He alone is worthy and if we truly love Him and His Word we will be like the Bereans. (Luke 17:7-10 , Acts 17:11)

I encourage that for us all, to keep testing what we are taught to the infallible, inerrant Word of God! “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16

By Gina Cook


Through The Narrow is written by Tami Dykes and Gina Cook, both are published authors. You can find Tami’s book here, and Gina’s book here.