Through the Narrow: Should Christians Talk to Satan? By Tami Dykes

Christians have been lied to about the devil and Hell.

We have been told over and over that Hell is Satan’s dwelling place. He lives there and just comes around to bother us sometimes or sends his demons to mess with us. It has been suggested that the devil spends time with those that are in Hell tormenting them and allowing demons to torment them as well.

The link below is from the movie “War Room”, and we see where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) decides she’s had enough of the devil and goes after him. She becomes mad enough about the devil messing things up in her life that she gives the devil a firm scolding and yells at him for a good while.

She starts out with her explaining to him, “I don’t know where you are, devil, but I know you can hear me.” Well, the devil is not omnipresent and he cannot be everywhere at once as God can. I don’t know about you but to me, that seems like a frightening thought to think about, out of all the places on earth the devil chooses to be to cause destruction, he chooses you and your house to do it. Yikes!

But because he can only be in one place in time how does she know she is talking to him and that he hears her? Her assumption makes her believe that he is there and can hear her and yet she goes about scolding him as if she’s an authority to him and he might just be standing in shock that she’s on to him now. She says, “You have played with my mind and had your way long enough. No more. You are done. Jesus is the Lord of this house and that means there is no place for you here anymore.” thinking it’s something he wouldn’t know unless she announces it and now that she has he can’t play those games anymore and has to leave. She seems to think that Christians stand in some devil proof zone and they are promised no more demonic attacks or problems. The problems aren’t the same after salvation, but they are still going to come. The devil still tempts and causes deception in the lives of both the lost and saved; this is why we need to stand on the Word of God. We do not become free from the devil’s lies and destruction the minute we are saved. In fact, we can expect it just as much as a Christian, just as Job was targeted by the devil. 

She then appears to chase him out of her house as she storms outside. She continues to remind him that he can’t have her marriage, daughter, or husband. We learn quickly, “when reading the Word” that marriage was designed by God and God does have set rules for the husband and set rules for the wife. God gives clear instructions on how we are to be in a marriage and the devil seeks to divide the husband and wife and destroy the marriage. Christian marriages are not off-limits to the devil.

The devil can cause trouble with anyone, and anything the devil does is always known by God. God can choose to allowed or not allowed the devil to play with people but it’s always for His own glory and purpose. At the same time we see it is God that can provide the protection and keep the devil at bay if He sees fit, just as it was done for Job in Job 1:10~ “Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land”.

In the movie the lady character tells the devil he is done (although, in reality, the devil will never be done or stop till our Lord throws him into the lake of fire) and she storms back into the house only to come back out a few seconds later to talk more to the devil. Here was where I’m like, “Serious, she’s gonna keep talking to him.” She comes back out and says, “And another thing…” like the devil is still standing outside all wide-eyed and in shock.  Just so you all know, the devil couldn’t care less what you have to say or that you’re mad at him.

She ends up telling the devil to “Go back to Hell where he belongs”. The problem with that is the devil didn’t come from Hell as if it was his personal apartment where he lives and besides, it contradicts the Word of God.

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That’s a very unbiblical teaching and a most ridiculous belief about the devil and Hell that there is. As I’ve mentioned the devil does not live in Hell or control it how he wishes. Instead, the devil is going to be the one tormented in Hell, not in charge of it, because it is God that is in charge of Hell.

What we learn from Scriptures is that God created Hell and it’s only God that has the AUTHORITY to put Satan in Hell, not us. In Matthew 25:41 and 2 Peter 2:4, God says that Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. It’s God that cast demons into Hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment.

Scriptures also, say that the demons cry out in fear of the Lord and do not want Him to torment them. Matthew 8:29~ And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”

Luke 12:5~But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!

Matthew 10:28 says, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Proverbs 14:27~ The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, that one may turn away from the snares of death.

That tells me that we should fear God because He is the Authority overall.

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But common sense says that even if it’s true that Christians can command and send the devil to Hell then who is letting him out or how is he getting out? If people all over the world are practicing this and they believe they are sending the devil “back” to Hell then he is being sent there over and over by different people all the time. Not to mention that most people will say, “In Jesus’ name.” So does this mean saying “in the name of Jesus” isn’t strong enough to keep the devil in Hell? 

It says in 1 Peter 5:8 “the devil prowls around seeking someone to devour”. In Job 1:7 it tells us when God asked where the devil was and he told God he was going to and fro on the earth and walking up and down on it. This devil isn’t in Hell seeking to devour people; he’s on earth seeking to devour people.

Another thing that should be obvious is we should never address the devil ever! Why do people insist on talking to the devil when things go wrong? Because they were taught to do that.  It’s not biblical and so very dangerous. 

Addressing Satan is the worst thing you can do and yelling at him does nothing.

But ask yourself, “Why in the world would I want to address the enemy of God anyway or any demon for that matter?” That’s just giving the devil what he wants, YOUR attention!! Your attention is off of God and on him and now he is robbing you of your time spent with God. Think about it, something goes wrong and we start talking to the devil about how mad we are or how hurt we are and how he is not going to have control anymore. Does this make sense? Your time could be spent praying to God and asking Him for help but instead, it’s spent yelling at the devil.

God tells us in James 4:7-8 to “submit to God and resist the devil“.

We all need to be in prayer for all things but when we are addressing Satan then you have stopped your prayer and turned your back on God to talk with Satan.  This movie teaches people they can address Satan and that’s wrong.  

In the part of the movie where the wife (played by Priscilla Shirer) losses her cool and starts getting upset and yells at the devil and it appears that she is chasing him outside, I want to know, how does she know she got him outside? How does she know that her yelling did anything? But the worst part is that anyone would be talking to God one day and then the next start talking to Satan? Seems to me that would be an insult to God. Think about that, we pray to our Lord for many things. We go to God for help, to praise Him, to thank Him but one day you feel you are being spiritually attacked so instead of going to God (who has the power to help you and protect you) we start talking to the devil instead like we are his parent and he’s in trouble. Why? He doesn’t care what we think. He isn’t going to all the sudden become remorseful and sad because we yelled at him. The devil isn’t going to be afraid of you and apologize for upsetting you. He is getting exactly what he wants, your attention off of God, and getting you all stressed and angry. We shouldn’t address the devil at all, ever. We only need to address God. 

Satan is very active and he does prowl around and he will until the 1000 year reign of Christ where an angel (the warrior archangel Michael) binds him and he will be thrown into the bottomless pit as said in Revelation 20:1–3~ “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him so that he might not deceive the nations any longer until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be released for a little while.” 

The word archangel means “angel of the highest rank.”  Michael binds the devil, not a human. The archangel Michael has spiritual combat with the devil during the millennial reign of Christ. The Bible also speaks of Michael protecting people as well, in Daniel 12:1 so if we are so tough that we think we can bind Satan and kick him out of our house on our own, why would God need angels protecting us, ministering to us and guiding us?

I mention in an earlier article I wrote, “Steven Furtick’s Heretical Views on Satan & Sovereignty”, (you can find it here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi7xqALAz0h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link )

That we humans are weaker than angels and below them in power and knowledge. (2 Peter 2:11, Jude 1:9) so there is no way we can take on Satan and his demons and there is no way he stands in fear of us. That’s just pride-fullness.

Binding Satan is not within our power. Scriptures say in Acts 19:13-16~ “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

This from Got Questions:

“Jesus had earlier given His apostles specific authority over demons (Mark 3:15). Paul, as an apostle, had received that authority as well (see 2 Corinthians 12:12).”

“..Demons recognize valid authority, and they fear God (see James 2:19). It’s important to note that the authority over demons belongs only to Jesus (see Luke 8:28, 31) and to those to whom Jesus gave it. The demon in Acts 19 says that it knows Jesus and Paul (one of Jesus’ chosen apostles). It refused to recognize any other authority in Ephesus. The demon’s question “who are you?” is chilling in its implications to the seven sons of Sceva and their total lack of authority.”

This is what God wants us to do instead in Eph 6: 10-18~ Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. …13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you maybe able to withstand in the evil day and having done all, to stand firm.

James 4:7-8 says “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.”

That being said, there was one part in the move I agree with and that was when the old woman named Miss Clara says to the wife, “Do your fighting in prayer.” That’s exactly what we need to do. Not address the devil but address God in prayer. Not yell at the devil but run to God in prayer. Not send the devil back to Hell but bring God into it and let God fight the battle. We can’t!

Turning away from God to speak to the devil just because you feel you are strong enough and more powerful than the devil is unbiblical. Just because someone told you that you could do that because you are a Christian is a lie. God is the only one that can fight the devil and protect you. Just stay with God and don’t waste your time talking to the devil.

We all need to stop talking to him, stop yelling at him, stop commanding him to go back to Hell, and don’t give him any more of your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkobFVAVlf8

Throwback Thursday – Christ the Messiah: God or Man?

Below is an article written back on November 27, 2018 as apart of our Twisted Tuesday series. You can view the original here.


Dear ones, a few days ago I heard a grievous statistic that 78% of ‘Christians’ believe Christ was created by God. 78? That means the mass majority of professing Christians have an errant view of Christ, the trinity, and the Gospel. The verse twisted to come up with this false doctrine is Revelation 3:14 which does seem to justify this belief. Here’s the problem, Scripture clearly states that Christ has always been, He is eternal, so either Scripture is contradicting itself or our understanding is flawed. Always, always, beloved, assume the issue is with our interpretation. Gods Word is inerrant, we are not.

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What’s happened in Revelation 3:14 is simply a misunderstanding of the Greek term arche. Arche is translated in most versions as beginning, which in modern speech would suggest the first created. In Greek, however, this is referencing the source, or origin, of created things. All things were made by Him, Christ is the source. A little Greek can go a long way, thankfully we have access to a tremendous amount of information online. But why is this so dangerous? And how did it come about that so many believe it?

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Friends, Gods Word is very clear, only a perfect sacrifice could remove the sins of believers. Only God is perfect. If Christ is created by God, He is not God, and can not save through His sacrifice. You can see then that multitudes of professing believers do not even understand this most basic doctrine of Christianity. If you put your faith in a false god, even if you name that false god Jesus, you are still lost. I liken it to this, suppose a new employee comes to you and processes to worship Christ. You’re overjoyed, another believer to fellowship! That employee invites you over to worship Jesus together, and you accept the invite. Unfortunately, when you arrive, you find that ‘Jesus’ is this new friends pet chicken to which he sacrifices to, adores, and worships. You see the different, beloved?

I was an idolater before God saved me in July of 2015. I had created an image of a god, he resembled Santa Clause. I called him Jesus, but he was a figment of my imagination. He was not the Biblical Messiah, who bore my sin and death on a Roman cross. I had no idea about the mystery of the Godhead, or the eternality of Christ. When I became a new creation understanding didn’t magically appear in my mind, I had to search the Scriptures. The very thing my new heart desired to do more than anything else. I wanted to know more about this Savior that had freed me from the chains of sin! In digging into God’s Word I could clearly see the difference between the true Christ, and the false god I had been worshipping.

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How is it then, with this being such obvious error, that the majority polled answered incorrectly? I believe the answer is twofold. Firstly, the foxes are watching the hen house. Over the past hundred years the Gospel has been slowly watered down, and churches have become so ‘inclusive’ and inoffensive, that they don’t dare give the Law to the proud and grace to the humble. Without Biblical preaching churches are filled with unsaved members that then go on to become unsaved pastors, leaders, and elders. Secondly, and owing to the first point, doctrine is despised in today’s churches. The very idea of tediously working through the Scriptures is laughable to the modern ‘Christian’. As proverbs say, to the starving every bitter thing tastes sweet. Those who have so very little teaching in the Word are more apt to accept whatever sounds best to their itching ears.

I doubt that I have to mention just how deeply troubling this statistic is. We must continue, dear brethren, to study and share the truth as many of your wonderful blogs to daily. Teach your children, and grandchildren, and encourage your pastors, elders, and leaders to teach meaty matters. Speak the truth in love, always bringing to remembrance that, if not for Gods grace, we would also be mislead. As always, beloved ones, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Through the Narrow: Priscilla in the Pulpit – Preaching, Polluting, and Purpose by Tami Dykes

Priscilla in the Pulpit

‘Preaching, Polluting, and Purpose’

There are people that argue that Priscilla Shirer doesn’t preach in churches. This video is just one example showing she does. This takes place at a church called Celebration Church. People have said that Priscilla doesn’t knowingly preach to men but in this video, she addresses those listening and calls them brothers and sisters and she also addresses the pastor and his wife in the church so yes, she knows. Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.1 Timothy 2:11-14. I’ll be going through this video and pointing out my concerns with several things she teaches. (Video below)


Right from the start, you will hear Priscilla say: “It’s a privilege to serve you today in these Sunday Services.” and “You need to know, every church ain’t got it this good.” She then encourages the Pastor and his wife to “stay in bed on Sunday” sometime and let her serve. Basically saying she will preach the Sunday service to let them stay home from church to relax. I’m a little taken back by this comment….”Stay home from church?” Well, I’d never encourage the practice of staying home from church just to get a break from church. If you’re sick, yes, but not just because you need to get away or need a break from church. Do you really need a break from learning the Word of God as a congregation one day a week? However, in this case, I’d say they should NOT go to that church because that church allows women to preach to the body of believers. Just go find a church where a man is a pastor obeying God’s Word and doesn’t let women come in and preach for them.


Priscilla starts out talking about the pastors and leaders of the church: “So you got shepherds who love you, they love the church, they love the house of God, they love serving you and on top of all that, they are folks of integrity and character and honesty who love each other…” Yeah, the things that make you go hmmm? First of all, let’s read some verses that teach us about the role of shepherds. 1 Peter 5:2 says: “Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them–not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve;” 1 Timothy 6:20-21 says: “Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have departed from the faith.” What should be very obvious to the leaders in every church is it’s not their church and it’s not their flock, it’s Gods. God has entrusted the sheep to the shepherds and if He returns to lost and dying sheep there will be a heavy price to pay so they best be careful. With Priscilla preaching in that church the leaders are guilty of disobedience, neglect, and leading the sheep astray and they will be held accountable for that. I listened to her comment and had to wonder if what she said was true about the leaders of that church? Do the shepherds of that church really love the people? No, not if they have put a counterfeit in the place of a shepherd and pollute the food. God gave specific instructions on how He wanted His sheep treated. If they allow the sheep to get feed by someone that God has already said isn’t to be in charge of the sheep or authority in the church they do not love the people. Do the shepherds love the house of God? Not if they invited the wolves into the house of God. Do the shepherds have integrity and character and honesty? I’d say in this church, no! There is no integrity or no honesty because integrity is being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness as the dictionary describes. What they truly are doing is rebelling and being disobedient by allowing a woman in the church to preach. Also, we should remember the verse we just read before this (1 Peter 5:2) where it describes the shepherd’s character of “not pursuing dishonest gain.” Those church leaders don’t have good character as Priscilla says if this is what they are doing. Priscilla is a popular, well known, woman preacher and more than likely she was invited there to preach and to draw crowds, which also draws money. Those shepherds are not guarding or watching over the flock as God says in His Word because they are not protecting them from danger but instead exposing them to it. The shepherd’s jobs are to feed the sheep, lead the sheep, serve the sheep, protect and care for the sheep. However, in churches that allow women preachers to feed the sheep are neglecting the sheep, losing the sheep, harming the sheep and lying to the sheep. This isn’t loving? For more read here: https://www.gotquestions.org/feed-my-sheep.html “A good shepherd is not known by how well he pets the sheep. A good shepherd is known by how well he protects them and feeds them” ~John MacArthur

Priscilla then says: “He takes one message and He divides it 3, 4 thousand, 5 thousand, different ways that by the time we all leave here we each know we have heard the voice of God.”
Where do the Scriptures say God does this? Does God need to do this and if so, why? This seems a bit confusing because she doesn’t explain what she means here, it’s just not clear. I’ll go ahead and explain how I took it but because I can’t know for sure it’s just a guess that comes from what I know her to believe. My first assumption was that she was suggesting to everyone that the “interpretation” of the message would be different for everyone. The reason I believed this was because she adds, “by the time we all leave here we each know we have heard the voice of God.” Priscilla is well known for talking about hearing God speak to her in audible ways outside the Bible. She believes in personal, new revelations and messages from God, so this was the first thing that came to mind for me. However, if I give her the benefit of the doubt she could have meant the “application” of a passage. This, in a nutshell, means different life situations! Let me explain, when we read any Bible passage to study it we should understand that scripture already has its meaning, already has its interpretation from the author that wrote it and more importantly from the Lord. We will not get different interpretations/meanings from a passage but it can be applied in many different ways only because situations in life can be different. For example, when Priscilla talks about the patience of God in the church service the passage can be applied differently in the life of a married couple struggling than it does in the life of a teenager struggling. When Paul is talking about God’s patience in the Scriptures he explains to Timothy his own experience with God’s patience, and how it applied differently to him, which is his own personal life situation. But again the interpretation is the same, God’s patience is the same for all no matter what the situation is for each individual. So this is why I believe Priscilla should have explained to the congregation what she meant by God dividing up His message 5,000 different ways. Now, if Priscilla did mean the “application” of the passage being divided up to 5,000 different ways then let’s look at how it fits with what she said. She says, “by the time we all leave here we each know we have heard the voice of God.” Do we hear the voice of God through how we apply God’s Word to our own life? No! Do we hear the voice of God in the biblical interpretation of Scriptures? Yes! Hebrews 4:12 “For the word of God is living and active…” 2 Timothy 3:16, Paul states, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.https://www.gotquestions.org/God-breathed.html

“This is the only use in the Bible of the Greek word theopneustos, which means “God-breathed, inspired by God, due to the inspiration of God,” but other scriptural passages support the basic premise of Scripture being inspired by God. The power of the breath of God in divine inspiration pervades Scripture. God-breathed “the breath of life” into Adam (Genesis 2:7), and Jesus “breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit’” (John 20:22). In 2 Peter 1:21, we are told that “prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” Here we see the truths of Scripture described as coming directly from God, not from the will of the writers He used to record them.” Scripture is God’s voice; it is how God speaks to us. Our application is not the voice of God; it’s just our personal experience. So, her comment doesn’t fit with the idea of “applying” God’s message 5,000 different ways because that is not how we hear the voice of God. Her comment fits more with her belief of hearing God’s voice in different revelations and interpretations outside the Bible. Priscilla is teaching very vaguely here and that’s careless when it comes to the Word and standing in authority in a church. Again, I cannot know for sure what she is talking about here but it makes no sense. I just wanted to point out the different meanings and I wanted to show how careless she is being. She says all this so confidently that people won’t question it, at least, not unless they can stop and think about her statement word for word and in most cases no one does. It sounds as though she has a great amount of knowledge when she talks, which fits with what we read in the scriptures above in 1 Timothy 6:20-21 that says a true shepherd should “turn away from opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge”. Also, notice she says: “when God gives a message He takes that one message and divides it up”. Taking this back to Scriptures, we see God tells us that “WE” are the ones that need to divide it…to “RIGHTLY divide the Word”…which means rightly handle the Word. Nothing is said about God dividing it thousands of ways. The following translations show the example of the word “divide”.

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) ~ Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:15(ESV)~Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handlingthe word of truth.


Next problem, Priscilla prays and says: “Lord Jesus thank you so much for the privilege that I have today under the leadership of an incredible church to serve Your people. I pray now that you would do what only you can. That is to take one simple little message, divide it up however many ways you need to so that everybody hears from you. Expecting Lord, that the words from my mouth and meditation of my heart would be accepted.”
Does anyone else see anything wrong with this prayer? Think about what she is saying, “Lord Jesus, thank you so much for the “privilege” that I have today “under the leadership” of an incredible “church“? To a young baby Christian, they may hear these words and think it sounds fine. I know I would have. This is why we study and hopefully, as we grow in God’s Word we are able to discern things and if something isn’t right, red flags should start popping up all over the place. So, I think it’s clear that the Lord did not give her that “privilege”! God speaks against women preaching in a church or being an authority over men biblically as stated in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. Priscilla “thanks the Lord” for letting her serve His people…. but she should know God has already said how she is “to serve” God’s people, and it’s not in place of a pastor or as a religious leader to a body of believers anywhere. This link goes in more detail on what God thinks of women preachers. https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/81-56/does-the-bible-permit-a-woman-to-preach


She then says: “Expecting Lord, that the words from my mouth and meditation of my heart would be accepted.”
Does she really expect that the Lord will accept her words and heart in this? How can He when she is doing exactly what God has forbidden her to do? He can’t accept something that He, Himself, has said is wrong. Now, I know she preaches very well and says many things in this video that is true and says many good things I agree with; such as God’s love endures forever, God is patient, His grace is sufficient for us, and God is slow to anger and great in power. She preaches on 1 Timothy 1:16 on how Paul talks about the patience of God and His mercy. The whole message is about God’s patience and how the Holy Spirit sanctifies us. She also talks of how the history of the Bible is like the enemy and God playing chess together. It’s all very intriguing. Nonetheless, just let me bring everyone back to reality for a bit because although her story sounds intriguing and entertaining at best, God and Satan do not play together! Let’s just get that out of the way right now, and they do not have equal minds to where Satan can trick God or “make a move” to outwit God, ever. God was never put in a place where He had to figure out how to win against Satan. This should be good news for everyone to know if they didn’t know this, it is for me. However, just because she tells good stories and says some true things doesn’t mean it’s ok for her to preach in spiritual authority in a church and it doesn’t make what she teaches ok. She is preaching truth along with untruths! She’s already in rebellion by preaching as the authority of a church. I know I keep repeating the same thing but people are so quick to forget what she is doing just because they love her words and storytelling even though they are being polluted by what she teaches.


Then she tells us this: “…And can I tell you that I feel similarly I guess the way Paul does, in that I can’t believe that God might use me for His glory and I don’t even mean in this setting? I enjoy ministry, I love it, it’s my privilege to serve the body of Christ but I don’t even mean as much here. When I say I can’t believe God would use me, I think mostly about the smaller sphere of influence that God has me in. For example: married to a man that God has given me and has given me to him and my goal as his wife is to encourage and to serve this man so that one day when Jerry sees Jesus face to face he gets to hear Jesus say, “Well done”. My job is to help make sure that my man hears a “Well done”. I can’t believe God would entrust me with that.” I have to disagree with her statement here. I nearly missed this one because she speaks so fast and confident that I didn’t catch it the first time I watched this. It wasn’t until I listen to the video again to make sure I wrote things out correctly. When I heard her say this I was like, wait a minute, what did she just say? I was shocked because she really believes God entrusted her with making sure her husband hears “well done” from Jesus. Let me just say this; she’s not that powerful! It’s not up to her! She can’t make sure that her man hears a “Well done” from Jesus. Not only that but she thinks this is a good thing? Yikes! I know I wouldn’t want that responsibility on my shoulders. No thanks, I don’t want to be responsible for my husband’s judgment day. Just because God gave him to her does not mean she is responsible for her husband in that way. It is no one else’s responsibility to make sure others hear those words, but it is the individual’s own heart and fruits that would be the reason for hearing the words, “Well done good and faithful servant.” I would also add that we are responsible to encourage others with the truth of the Gospel and not stumble them.


Priscilla goes on to say:
“We don’t even recognize that God has strategically placed us in that location to be used for His glory. So he (the enemy) wants you to think you’re in that neighborhood by chance. Um-no, He (God) has positioned you between those two neighbors for His Glory. he wants you to think you just happened to get that job cause that’s just the job you have now, He put you in that office for his Glory. The location that you are in my friend is the exact place He has patiently placed you, to be used for His Glory.”

Priscilla is half right when she says this. The Scriptures do say in Proverbs 16:9 “The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps”. Ephesians 1:11 “In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.” Nothing happens to us that is outside of God’s sovereign will because it is God that is the Sovereign Ruler of the universe who ordains all that happens. Although, let me show you why this needs to be explained deeper and why I have a problem with her statement here. When God’s will is for something to happen then it defiantly happens. When God’s will was to create the world, it happened. God’s will was to also permit sin or unpleasant things to happen that He takes no pleasure in. When someone freely chooses to go against God they are in rebellion, God did not place them in a situation that would make them sin or cause them to rebel. They are guilty of their rebellion because they made the choice and they will be punished. God does not create or cause anyone to sin.

From grace church link: https://www.gracechurch.org/about/distinctives/sovereignty-of-god “What about sin? God is not the author of sin, but He certainly allowed it; it is integral to His eternal decree. God has a purpose for allowing it. He cannot be blamed for evil or tainted by its existence (1 Sam. 2:2: “There is no one holy like the Lord.”). But He certainly wasn’t caught off-guard or standing helpless to stop it when sin entered the universe. We do not know His purpose for allowing sin. Clearly, in the general sense, He allowed sin in order to display His glory—attributes that would not be revealed apart from evil—mercy, grace, compassion, forgiveness, and salvation. And God sometimes uses evil to accomplish good (Gen. 45:7–8; 50:20; Rom. 8:28). How can these things be? Scripture does not answer all the questions, but it does teach that God is utterly sovereign, perfectly holy, and absolutely just.”

Below taken from: https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/80-310/taking-the-mystery-out-of-knowing-gods-will

“Scripture affirms both divine sovereignty and human responsibility. We must accept both sides of the truth, though we may not understand how they correspond to one another. People are responsible for what they do with the gospel—or with whatever light they have (Rom. 2:19-20) so that punishment is just if they reject the light. And those who reject do so voluntarily. Jesus lamented, “You are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life” (John 5:40). He told unbelievers, “Unless you believe that I am [God], you shall die in your sins” (John 8:24). In John 6, our Lord combined both divine sovereignty and human responsibility when He said, “All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out” (v. 37) “Nothing that I do or don’t do will alter the end of the plan, but everything I do and everything you do will have an effect on our blessing, our joy, our obedience, our usefulness now and forever. So it’s important to me to know God’s will. I want to do it, I don’t want to be in the dark. ”- John MacArthur

This from https://www.gotquestions.org/Gods-will.html.“We are obligated to obey God’s revealed or preceptive will; however, we have the ability to disobey. God’s revealed will for Adam and Eve was to be fruitful and multiply, tend the garden, subdue the earth, and not eat of a certain tree (Genesis 1–2). Unfortunately, they rebelled against God’s revealed will (Genesis 3). The consequences they suffered show that they could not excuse their sin. Neither can we claim that our sin simply fulfills God’s sovereign will, as if that absolves us from guilt. It was God’s will that Jesus suffer and die, but those responsible for His death were still held accountable (Mark 14:21).” So my problem with her statement here is although she’s right about God being in control and doing His will for His Glory, at the same time, she is standing in rebellion against God by standing in a church preaching Scriptures. God is clear that women are not to be doing this. When she says, “the location that you are in my friend is the exact place He has patiently placed you, to be used for His Glory,” does this mean we are supposed to believe God put “HER” in the place she is in, a pastoral role, an authority in the church, for God’s Glory? I mean seriously look at where she is and what she’s doing. Does that glorify God? How can it? She is contradicting and compromising God’s Word. She is not being obedient; she is being defiant and therefore insulting God’s authority. God did not place her in the lead role as a pastor or as a religious leader in the gathering body of believers. She placed herself there, her husband placed her there. Any church leader that has allowed her to preach in their church, to their congregation, has placed her there. To be under God’s authority means we follow His law. Most people that are there listening to Priscilla are not educated in God’s Word or they wouldn’t be there. However, God does use bad situations and disobedient people and evil to accomplish good for His own glory. Ex: Joseph, “you meant evil…but God meant it for good (Genesis 50:20)”, God used Judas a man that betrayed Jesus for money (Luke 22). Maybe there are people there newly saved and just don’t know yet, maybe someone is in that church listening to Priscilla that is growing and being tested as said in these following verses. Deuteronomy 8:2 “Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands.”

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”As a saved Christian I use to sit and read books and listen to many false teachers I thought were biblically sound. I was young in the faith and didn’t know about what God said about women teaching in the churches yet. So I wasn’t passing any test if it was given me but as I continued to read God’s Word and heeded the warnings from other discerning Christians and woke up to the dangers. Once I understood the seriousness of it I stopped following them and tested everything from then on out. That is how God worked and drew me out of false teachings. God can use any situation to draw His children and if it’s a bad situation or a false religion He can still work in that. Someone that is truly saved and honestly seeking truth will continue to seek and hunger for God’s Truth. They will not stay in a false religion but eventually be drawn out. His Word will be held up through reading it or through someone pointing Scriptures out. His Word will cause those red flags to pop up against that false teaching. Now, not all will be drawn out as we know. God says that many will take the wide path to destruction (Matthew 7:13-14) and not be saved, they will hunger for the ear-tickling and not hunger for His Word.


At the end of the video, she prays and talks of how many others are watching online and calls them “brothers and sisters”. She knows she is preaching to a co-ed audience of believers or she wouldn’t say that. We know that Christians don’t call unbelievers ‘brothers and sisters’ but we call those that are true believers in Christ ‘brothers and sisters’ so this means that she believes that the people listening and attending are a “gathering body of believers” which means she is teaching the Word of God to men and women both that are presumed to be believers in the church. It’s my prayer that this helps others learn how important it is to test all things as Scriptures says.

(https://youtu.be/kfBzcvydHaM)


Above is an article written by Tami Dykes, Gina and Tami write Through the Narrow here at Tulips & Honey Hub. They’ll be posting articles every other Tuesday. Both are published authors, and you can find Tami’s book here, and Gina’s book here. We’re blessed to have them apart of our team, and pray their writing will be as edifying to you as it is to us. – Lauren Hereford

Through The Narrow – The False & The Deceived: By Tami & Gina

Regarding the false and the deceived we could write books upon books and never be done covering all the kinds this world knows. Many have already written on and much has been talked about false teachers and teachings. The darkness won’t quit tweaking and twisting which is why we could never be done warning about all the ways satanic forces deceive. “Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” 1 Peter 5:8. God has told us in 2 Corinthians 11:14 that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light, as well as his servants. They do this in countless ways. I want to talk about one of those ways that may not get as much attention but is just as dangerous.

I want to talk about some through-the-back-door approaches the occult is taking to invade many evangelical, Bible-preaching churches today — the teaching of empowerment and identity. 

Before I get to that I believe it’s important to first clarify what the occult is, generally speaking. It can simply be defined as, “Hidden, secret and mysterious, chiefly pertaining to the supernatural” and is widely known to include practices such as witchcraft, fortune-telling, clairvoyance, magic, tarot card reading and the list goes on. A lot of us know many of the charismatic churches and obvious false churches that hold to a false gospel like the Catholic churches, Christian Science churches, Mormon churches (and several others) have long embraced some occult type practices to one degree or another. I’m not talking about those churches, although they are also concerning. I’m talking about your evangelical, Baptist, nondenominational churches; you’re straight as an arrow grandparent’s country church that preaches from the Bible and claims the sufficiency and inerrancy of Scripture.

I know personally and hear story after story of churches steadily abandoning their once biblically solid foundation and quickly falling into mysticism and strange doctrines. One wouldn’t think any true church or born again believer would dare touch anything of this nature with a 10-foot pole. Most don’t intend to I’m sure. From what I’m seeing and hearing, as a former Catholic medium who was seduced by the occult herself before the Lord graciously saved me, I’ve sat in some evangelical churches that preached the true Gospel and started to notice this stuff coming in, but as a very light-weight and agreeable version. It sneaks in under the radar to many unsuspecting, well-intentioned people and within the walls of trusted churches-many times entirely unhindered. And unless by God’s grace that it is seen, warned against and snuffed out, it doesn’t take long to spread.

All the practices that can be considered occult, as it is defined, can usually be put in either of these two categories; First, desiring secret knowledge and second, desiring supernatural power. This also goes for every false religion because all humanity, in some form or fashion, desire one or both of these two things. Satan knows that and it seems the lure has been specially designed with that in mind.

Although there are several ways the occult can sneakily enter in, such as through music, like that of Hillsong and Bethel, I don’t want to talk about the music aspect at this point. 

We have the full-blown heretics that fill TBN with their heretical teachings of Christ and mysticism. We have Sarah Young and her man-centered and heresy-laden book “Jesus Calling,” Beth Moore and her contemplative prayer practices and visions, Priscilla Shirer and her public proclamations of needing more than Scripture which leads her to teach we are to listen to personal communication from God that, “makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up”. I could go on and on.

Yet with that said, there are churches whose members mostly reject TBN preachers, Beth Moore, Shirer, Young and the like for their “off” teachings, and yet a person could sit in their women’s Bible group and hear the whispers of the occult still blowing through. You sit there long enough and you will hear women say they received a sign from God regarding a decision they had to make. Perhaps the lesson goes in the direction of “know who you are in Christ” but meant in a way that God never instructed on. The focus quickly becomes what God can do for us, but in a way that seems spiritually healthy and “in touch” with God. It gets unchallenged and met with “amens” as others share their experiences of God giving them personal experiences or pep talks. They may start praying to God to hear from Him instead of going to the Word to do so (this is contemplative prayer). They claim God is doing things that are nowhere taught or supported in the Word. 

These situations may not scream, “Occult” too many people but every single one connects to the general practices and definition of the occult. Again, the occult is about the hidden, secret and mysterious things of the supernatural. It’s about seeking out the supernatural in ways the Bible never condones.

Going back to what I said earlier about the teaching of empowerment and identity:

I have seen the focus of empowerment as a common thread. Certain teachers today have found a way to take the biblical teaching of the empowerment of the Holy Spirit in believers-meaning we are empowered to love Him and obey Him- and turn it into some sort of man-centered, identity crisis; some attempt to have spiritual encounters/proofs, personal messages, and (never promised) personal blessings from God. It usually starts by sounding very biblical, with a focus on knowing our empowered identity in Christ as believers. Yet, instead of staying on Biblical tracks with it, it slowly veers into dangerous territory.

Not long ago, I sat in a church somewhere in the Bible belt, a Scripture preaching, and Gospel loving church who let in one particular teacher. It was a teacher who persuaded them with such sincerity and convincing manipulation of Scripture that we are to understand all of what empowerment of the Holy Spirit means — and if we don’t, we will not honor God or enjoy the fullness of Christ or spiritual blessings. It started to sound as if we don’t know our identity and keep focusing on it, everything falls apart. They recite the well-known phrase that is based on Scripture, “We have the same Holy Spirit living in us that raised Jesus from the dead.” That is found in Romans 8:11, “But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.” What a beautiful passage, if we stay within the biblical context, but they don’t. 

Before people know it, they have been fed the idea, which is wrapped in some Scripture and Gospel talk, that our identity in Christ is more about expecting the cool stuff, opening our minds to what God might want to do or say to us personally, embracing the mysterious; the things the Bible never said for His Church to focus on. If we reject it and just want to know and obey and preach God’s Word, we have essentially “put God in a box” and have become automatic Pharisees in their eyes. 

It started out focusing a lot on Gospel spreading. It was agreeable. It was a community and missionary-minded. It seemed like the punchy evangelical remedy to a church that held sleeping men and seeking women. Soon after the lessons started my husband and I started seeing a shift into what we can do that Jesus did. We can be empowered like Jesus. We can do the same miracles that Jesus did. 

Wait, what?! 

Isn’t this some sort of crazy charismatic talk? We know some charismatic teachers, the well-known TBN ones especially, teach that Jesus was a mere man who was empowered by the Spirit while on earth, so, therefore, we are mere men who can be empowered by the Holy Spirit too, doing exactly what Christ did while on earth. That’s heretical. That’s not anything our church has ever condoned or taught before. So as soon as those words left the teacher’s mouth in our little evangelical, solid study group, a bomb just went off for me and my husband. Where did THIS come from? We can do all that Christ did? So, are we to start calming storms now? We were stunned this teaching was staring us in the face. We were even more stunned that all leadership and many others in the groups didn’t even question it and thought we were going to grow so much from it. Bringing up the concerns over and over didn’t help. This teacher’s teachings on Christ and Christianity, to them, are “simply said wrong, but he means this or that.” They were also quick to say, “Look at all he does and says over here and there. He cares about getting the Gospel to people and goes to a good church. He is friends with this trusted pastor and he speaks against false teachers, etc.” Truth is, leadership and many in the church liked his ideas and how he spoke. These people will speak against Joyce Meyers for her unbiblical teachings yet allow this, unfathomable.

I talked with a dear lady whose church studied under the same teacher years before. She said she was greatly concerned and would be praying for our church; she knew the destruction and the downgrade that can happen. In a few years, her church went from solid to completely unrecognizable and compromised. Our church was seemingly going in the same direction. 

Give it enough time and little rebuke, it becomes less about the Gospel and more about experiences and personal interpretations. Personal claims of what God has said or done can rarely be questioned, because “how dare we say God can’t do this or that.” People begin to think that focusing on their identity and empowerment, as taught, is spiritually enriching. People want more secret and special knowledge, they want to see more proofs of God’s approval and empowerment in their lives, in ways that are invigorating and unique. They claim to seek more of God but only invite the demonic and ungodly.

So one convincing “evangelical” teacher came in and that’s all it takes, step by step, chip by chip. It weakens and distracts so cleverly and so quickly especially when church leaders are lacking in discernment. Even when they are discerning and see this for what it is, they may hardly say a peep about it because of uncertainty or fear. “Pharisee,” “witch hunter,” “Bible-beater,” “limiting what God can do” cards are quickly pulled out. The church is left without protection from their shepherds.   

These teachers subtly and carefully introduce it in your most unsuspecting churches, to the immature in faith, the weak and lost. If we love the church, the truth; if we love the Lord we will prayerfully and carefully watch and warn.

I pray more and more people realize that the occult or pagan practices don’t stay in pagan churches, with the Wiccan or with the fringe. It doesn’t stay within the walls of the known heretical churches nor does it come from just the lips of the most heretical teachers. Demons want to bring it to the best church. It’s not innocent or secondary. 

Yes, believers and good churches can embrace these types of things as well and as a result will, stunt their growth, bring God’s discipline even judgment, stumble others and withhold honor due to God. Even after being enlightened to the truth, people have to unlearn and heal from the brainwashing of these abusive teachings. 

There is much more that can be said about this. Next time I’ll dive a little deeper into these specific teachings and why they are so attractive, who are the evangelical teachers peddling them and what other things they are teaching after you invest in their material.

“Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” 1 Peter 5:8.

By Gina Cook


Through The Narrow is written by Tami Dykes and Gina Cook, both are published authors. You can find Tami’s book here, and Gina’s book here.

Guest Post – More on Moore by Tami Dykes

Below, dear friends, is a post written by a listener of Tulips & Honey. She wrote this on FaceBook and gave me permission to publish it here on the blog. I hope this gives more clarity on why Beth Moore is such a dangerous teacher. You can find Tami on FB here. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.


Many think that in spite of the bad doctrine that Beth Moore teaches, that she is our sister in Christ and that we should not call her a false teacher or false prophet.
I will show you in this write up why I don’t believe she is a sister in Christ and why I do believe her to be a false teacher.
I believe women need to test any Bible study teacher they are considering.
The best example in Scriptures is the Bereans.
As most know, it’s not easy but necessary.
I am not throwing stones at her or trying to be mean or hateful, I’m trying to warn others that are caught up in her unbiblical doctrine.
As Ezekiel 3:16-21 explains why the warning is needed.
20 Again, if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits injustice, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die. Because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require at your hand. 21 But if you warn the righteous person not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning, and you will have delivered your soul.”
I can’t explain in just one sentence my take on Beth Moore because there is so much that she teaches that’s bad. People need to be warned.
I will post references and examples and my own comments will be in parenthesis.
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(The people that have woke up to her deception agree that much of her bad doctrine is “secretly introduce” into her studies just as this verse says and her followers just don’t see it.)
Scripture says in 2 Peter 2:1-3 of False Teachers and Their Destruction…
“But there were also false prophets
among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.
They will “secretly introduce” destructive “heresies”, even “denying the sovereign Lord” who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed, these teachers will exploit you with “fabricated stories”.
Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”
(Beth Moore definitely has fabricated stories because her preaching is based much on her own thoughts and voices in her head or what she feels in her heart.
She often says, “God told me in my heart” or “God laid it on my heart”, about a special revelation that she claims she has from God, which we are unable to test or find in Scriptures.
From the verse above, we see that heresy which is any belief contrary to biblical doctrine and anything that denies or rejects the teaching of Jesus is destructive.
Would you say that anyone that purposely changes, twists, adds or takes away from God’s Law, God’s Word, has denied and rejected truth? Have they denied Jesus’ teachings?
Yes! Because after they have done this they have made a new and different doctrine, a different Bible, a different God. The Truth has been denied, the Bible has been denied and God has been denied.
She is not a solid biblical teacher and as my friends from Tulips and Honey podcast even say, not only should she NOT teach men but she shouldn’t even be teaching women.
Lauren and Becca, I agree!)
podcast is here:

Deuteronomy 12:32~ “Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.
(So, looking at this verse ask yourself, is Beth doing what God commands? No, she is completely rebelling by preaching and holding authority over men in churches along with so much more.
Is Beth adding and taking away from God’s commands? Yes. Every time she inserts herself into Scriptures or twist Scriptures to fit her message and every time she tells of a personal revelation.)
(This verse below speaks volumes concerning Beth.)
“If you love me, you will keep my commands,” He says, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever” (John 14:15-16).
(Start with the very first sentence of that verse.
Does Beth love Him? Well, does she keep God’s commands?
I’d say no because God commands women to be submissive and not have the authority of men. God commands us to not add or take away from His Word but her extra-biblical teachings (revelations) add and takes away. God commands us to obey God’s Word but her refusal to obey God’s commands tells us she does not love Him.
It’s not like Beth had no idea she was teaching this way or she had no idea she was teaching people bad doctrine or she didn’t know she was in rebellion. She has been confronted on many things by many well known Bible teachers so she can’t act shocked and say, “Ooops I accidentally taught something wrong”.
So this is a clear indication she is in rebellion and does not love God’s Word.)
(The last part of that verse tells us Jesus knows that keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.)
(My thought here is this if keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.
With Beth not keeping His commands, what’s that say about the Holy Spirit in her?
What’s that say about Beth? Yeah, not good.)
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(Biblical doctrine teaches us the nature and the character of God.
Beth changes His character and makes God someone He is not.
A good example is when she tells everyone to have a “romance” with Him as she states in a simulcast of what she calls mighty makers.
You tell me if the following is Biblical doctrine)…
From Chapter 3 Ministries:
“According to Mrs. Moore, “mighty makers” (there are 6 of them) are things we can do to make sure we get on a list that will be in heaven of the mighty men and women who were willing to stand up and fight the good fight with the shield of faith and sword of the Spirit. No Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it. What was given was her belief that “There will be “chronicles of the wars that have taken place on the globe when we get to heaven”.
(Wow, I have never read in Scriptures of a list called “Mighty Makers” that will be in heaven.)
“Mrs. Moore has a lot of confidence in her “mighty makers,” She said this about them. “There is no way around any one of them.”
“She felt very strongly about the first one. She said this about it, “This is foremost, number one, and it’s the part of it that makes me want to sob my eyes out.”
“Again, no Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it.”
Her Mighty Maker #1 is this:
“The audacity to make an unseen Savior the supreme romance of your life.”
“According to Mrs. Moore, that is what we were created for.”
(Really? This is the reason God created us, men and women? To have a romance with Jesus?
Ask yourself here, is this Biblical doctrine?)
“Mrs. Moore said that when we get to heaven, in spite of all we’ve been through on earth, if Jesus became the driving desire of our lives, we will say to him, “You know what? You were a blast. You were a blast. My life wasn’t a blast; a whole lot of it wasn’t very fun. But I’m gonna tell You something, You romanced me and You wooed me and You pursued me and I think You are a blast.”
The lady taking notes at this simulcast says: “I am very confident that I will not say these words to Jesus, nor would I ever speak to him in a way I would deem disrespectful. In heaven, I will be overtaken by his awesomeness, not chatting with him like he was my high school boyfriend.
Additionally, during the simulcast, no verses were given that spoke about romance with Jesus.”

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(Beth also shows how she’s not worried about preaching in churches every time she preaches in churches. This comes across to many that God is probably more than fine with her breaking His commandments of women preaching to men.
Yes, I’m aware that women preaching in churches is only a secondary issue but it doesn’t mean it’s not an issue at all. What it means is, they are not obedient to God’s commands…and what did God say about those that keep His commands? That they love Him. Beth is not keeping to His commands every single time she preaches and hold authority over a man. What example is that to the body of believers that set in church and watch her do this?
As scriptures says, many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Beth is teaching women all over the world that this is ok. Women are following their dangerous conduct.)
John MacArthur says “Titus 2:3 shows it’s ok for women to teach but they are to teach the young. He says mature women are to be reverent in their behavior.
“Reverent behavior would be obedience to the Word of God. Would you be a reverent woman if you were a woman preacher?”, “You can’t say you are a woman preacher preaching the Bible and be by virtue of that very roll dishonoring God and His Word.”, “All these women running around as preachers, supposedly teaching the Bible, are defying what the Bible says.” “The most popular woman preacher today (referring to Beth) says, “Well Paul’s not Jesus and Jesus told me to Preach”.
(Here’s a thought…How can God say in His own Law that He forbids a woman to teach or have authority over men and then Jesus decides to go against that and tells Beth she needs to preach to men and women in churches? Is this a sister in Christ? A woman that disobeys the Law and contradicts God’s own Word and puts words in God’s mouth is a sister in Christ? No. Sorry, she is not. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtSRfNO5xo
When we accept the Bible as God’s Word to us (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20–21), we have a solid foundation for our doctrine.
Second Peter 1:20 says that “no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation.”
“There is a right interpretation of everything God says, and it is our job to discern that meaning, not create an interpretation to suit our tastes.” (And it shouldn’t be Beth’s interpretation either when she claims new prophecies for today’s time, making the Scriptures nonauthoritative.)
https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-doctrine.html
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(She is a false Prophet. Why do I say that? Because she has publically stated for YEARS, probably over 10 years, that God gives her messages and she says God has even told her things that she says will come true in the future, just as Prophets do.
An example would be in these video several years back,
Where Beth Moore Predicts God Will soon Unite All Sectors of Christendom.)
Videos here:

(She says in one video, “God has placed it on my heart to tell you”….and continues saying God is telling her to get prepared for something that’s coming…….hmmm, what’s coming? Awakening and
downpour is coming. She tells the audience that it will be Christians that will be the ones arguing with them about it and others will say, “that’s not what it looks like”.)
(Basically, she means we are going to say, “No, that is not biblical.” She calls us bullies and mean spirited if we argue about it or disagree with her prophecy.
The words “Go Home” don’t seem so bad when you hear her say this about other Christians.
The other video she says, God tells her that He will unite every sector and every denomination.)
She says: “I believe that out of His great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us.
She says: “As clearly as I know how to discern what He laid upon my heart, I feel like, I am bringing it to you, as I understand it. I think what we will see if not now, very, very soon is Him (God) pushing this point with us over and over”.
(We know many religions believe very differently from those that stand on the Word of God as the ultimate authority.
The Word of Faith, International House of Prayer, Mormons, Buddhists, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witness and lots more believe very differently and are unbiblical that we can not be yoked together with.
This verse below tells us God has no intention of uniting His Church with darkness.)
2 Corinthians 6:14-16~Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”
(If God walks among us how can we unite with churches that pray to the dead or even angel’s just because they bare the name church?
Why would God allow us to hold hands with other Christians that have idols and look to statues for answered prayers and those that have love of money just because they bare the name, Christian?
Would God be pleased that we have united with churches that don’t believe Jesus is the Son of God but instead a brother of Satan? What about uniting with churches that believe if you name it then you can claim it. Would God allow those churches just because they bare the name church? Will God allow them to be ok where they are and still unite us all?
Biblically, there should be no divisions between true believers of Christ. Don’t we need to be like-minded to be united and in agreement with the Word?
With those churches we are divided, we are not like-minded and we don’t have the same beliefs.)
1 Corinthians 5:11~But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
2 John 1:10-11~ If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
1 Corinthians 1:10~ I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
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* (Another prophecy, where she talks about God telling Beth that He wants her to take money to a bus stop to give to a person that will show up later on, so she has to wait. She says God gave her the vision.
In the video, she sounds like a medium explaining the vision in certain detail as given to her from God. But, what if, God didn’t say it? She is crediting God with this prophecy.
But look at this warning God gives.)
Deuteronomy 13:1-3~”If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”
(Satan masquerade as light remember. Every time someone speaks of a personal revelation they always say, “God told me”. Why don’t people say, “Satan told me?”
Because saying that doesn’t make anyone special.)
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From: The End Time
Romans 16:17~Final Instructions and Greetings
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Beth Moore’s Direct revelation from a voice in her heart that she says is God, is an “obstacle”. How? You will hear Moore deliver a “teaching” she received directly from Jesus, and then say “test it,” but we can’t … because it’s from her own mind and not from the Bible. We have to rely on her and her special relationship with Jesus for the “teaching”. In so doing, she has inserted herself between us and Jesus, creating an extra step and a barrier directly to Him that everyone else can get simply by reading His word. Without her teaching from a vision, you would not know about it, so the teaching depends on HER, not Jesus.
–the false teacher “takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit” (Colossians 2:8). They take you captive by the method above. Once you start buying into Moore’s or other false teachers’ vision-teachings, you HAVE to keep following them in order to hear it explained again, or to receive more teachings. It comes from them so you have to keep following them to see what they will say next. Pretty soon her philosophy and deceit have captured you.
—For certain people have crept in unnoticed (Jude 1:4). Easy enough- they creep, and they’re unnoticed.
So, sister, do not feel bad if you’ve been duped or feel that your discernment skills are slow to grow.
Info taken from this link…
Discernment Lesson: Deconstructing Beth Moore’s most popular story
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“Beth explains some of her revelations aren’t always right. She says, “God kept repeating a word over and over to my heart: unbelief. Unbelief! I kept sensing Him saying, “My people are suffering from unbelief!” At the time I felt that this word was a separate message from the material He was beginning to give me for Breaking Free… As clearly as a bell, God spoke to my heart through His Spirit and said, “The answer to your question is the sin of unbelief.”
She continues: … Suppose I heard God correctly. (I have certainly misread Him before!). Why do you think not believing God personally and lavishly loves us could be a sin? ”
(Moore, “Breaking Free,” p. 211-212).
**Take careful notice of the contradictions in her statement above. The message from God was as clear as a bell, but she has misread God before and is worried she may have misread Him again. How does she misread a statement that is as clear a bell? Simply put, if she has spoken a single statement that was declared to be from God but was not really from God, then she is a false prophet. This is extremely serious. Moore does not take seriously the danger of falsely proclaiming that she is speaking the words of God.”
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“In this next example of non-Biblical revelation, Moore relates the story of a woman who approached her during a speaking engagement in Louisiana:
Beth says: With obvious anointing, she told the story we’re about to study, then she said: “I don’t know you, Beth. I have no idea why God sent me with such a message to give you, but He told me clearly to say these words to you: ‘Tell her that her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much’” (Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 91).
She later continues regarding this story with: He simply sent a woman to deliver His word—that I was forgiven. He whispered to my spirit, “Now, My child, be at peace.”
Oh, how I would love to be that woman to you today. Allow me to pull up my chair right in front of you, look you in the eye, and tell you what He told me to say: “Your many sins have been forgiven—for you love much.” Go in peace
(Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 95).
In this case, Moore has placed non-Biblical revelation above the written Word of God. The Bible was not sufficient to convince Moore that her sins were forgiven, but this stranger who claimed to get a word from God was able to. Now, Moore wants you to trust what she says about your forgiveness rather than point you to the God-breathed words of the Bible for that assurance. We should heed the warning of Scripture:
[For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (NASB, 2 Corinthians 11:13-14).]
Trust the Bible, not messages from Beth Moore or anyone else no matter how spiritual or even Christ-like they may sound.”
https://thekingsdale.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/beth-moore-false-teacher/
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Link below discussed 3 things to look for with False teachers.
Quotes taken from this link:
//www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html
#1.) How do they treat the teachings of Christ? (She abuses it)
In 2 John 9, we read, “Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”
(Beth doesn’t treat the teachings of Christ accurately. She has changed the teachings of Christ many times. Every time she changes the story in Scriptures to match an event in her life or to insert herself.
She changes it when she lessens the authority of Scriptures by teaching women that Scripture is not the final authority but that personal revelation is just as authoritative. God’s Word says…“Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God.” (Ouch)
Then there is this new one where
Beth changes Scriptures when she tweets out this.)
“I believe wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth. But the persons themselves – Paul and Jesus – are not equals. I know this is hard for some to swallow, but Paul is not our Savior. Paul would be horrified, I believe, by the way, he has been deified.” ~ Beth”
(The reason the whole Jesus/Paul came up was because it’s in the writings of Paul that women are said not to be in authority over a man. Several other women have used the same argument, “I’m not a follower of Paul, I’m a follower of Jesus” as if the red letters are all we are to obey. ALL of Scripture is God’s Word, not just the red letters. This is a contradiction because she is referring to Scriptures here. She says she believes Scriptures is authoritative but then turns around and says Paul’s and Jesus are not equal after that.
Two things here…First, if she truly believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.” Why did she see the need to distinguish the difference between Paul and Jesus? In her tweet, no one said anything about holding Paul above Jesus in any way. Why did she throw that out there?
Second, if she believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.”
why does she teach more from her own special Revaluations?
Beth holds more closely to her own personal revelation (the voice in her head that she believes is from God.) than she does to Scriptures.
As a result of this tweet, this brought into question both Paul’s person and his teachings. When you look at that tweet there are a lot of people very confused as to what she is meaning and why she said that.)
The link below states: “While it is true that “Paul and Jesus – do not equal” it is true that the words of Christ and the words of Paul ARE equal. Why? Because Jesus stated of himself “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) meaning he was God in the flesh.
The Word of God, all of it from Genesis to Revelation is Christ’s Words.”
If You Are Not Following Paul, Then You Are Not Following Jesus
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#2) “Does this teacher preach the gospel?
The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements “God loves you,” “God wants us to feed the hungry,” and “God wants you to be wealthy” are not the complete message of the gospel.
As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, “Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.” No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. “If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:9)
…..(Beth does preach a different gospel when she changes her mind about homosexuality) and says, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and says that she “exceeded Scripture.”
(This is lessening the sexual sin they live in.)
The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
#3.)Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord?
(No, Beth regularly shows Pride and rebellion. She doesn’t turn away from her mishandling of Scriptures or repent from it.)
Gotquestions: Jude 11 says, “They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s “rebellion.” In other words, a false teacher can be known by his “pride” (Cain’s “rejection” of God’s plan), “greed” (Balaam’s prophesying for money), and “rebellion” (Korah’s promotion of himself over Moses).
(Beth is certainly in “rebellion” and known for her “pride”. Beth has pridefully “rejected” the authority of Scriptures and rebelled against God’s commands by ignoring what God has said about women preaching and so much more.)
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(Examples of her “fabricated stories” that can not be linked to Scriptures found below.)
*She tells a story in a video about her being on a porch and God gave her a vision.
Beth said, “And tonight I’m going to do my absolute best to illustrate to you something that God showed me out on that back porch. He put a picture…I’ve explained to you before I am a very visual person…so He speaks to me very often of putting a picture in my head. And it was as if I was raised up looking down on a community, as I saw the church in that particular dimension- certainly not all dimensions, not even in many, but in what we will discuss tonight, the church, as Jesus sees it, in a particular dimension.”
(People, Beth is telling everyone, that God gave her a vision and special revelation that is not in Scriptures. It’s so dangerous to tag God’s name on something like that. )
*Then there is another story when Beth Moore says: “(God) began to say to me, ‘I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth, and boy you write this one down, and you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it….'”
*Another story where Beth says God told her to brush an old man’s hair at an airport and she actually argues with God about it.
Where is her fear of the Lord???
*Another story she says, “Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.”
Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in the near future for a number of days off. “God spoke to my heart” one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.”
* Then in another video (which I mentioned earlier), Beth Moore Predicts God Will Unite All Sectors of Christendom.
She says, “I believe, that out of his great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us…Listen, test the spirits and pray about this to see if it is so, but as clearly as I know how to discern what he has laid upon my heart I feel like I am bringing it to you as I understand it. But I think what we will see, if not now, very very soon, is him pushing this point with us, over and over and over, because I think it is very possible that what has satisfied you before will no longer satisfy you now.”
Scripture instead says this,
Romans 16:17~I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles “contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them”.
(Does she have correct biblical doctrine???)
*In another one, Beth says God tells her a future prophecy. You will hear Beth Moore talk about scoffers who will come and speak out against the awakening and downpours; the outpouring that she believes God is telling her is coming.
Beth quote:
“What God began to show me, is that it would not just come from the…mean spirited. The scoffers…I believe that God put on my heart…please test the spirit, pray and see if this…is confirmed to you in prayer and in the study of the Word… I believe that He placed it on my heart that the scoffers will have an alternative answer for everything; an alternative for every single thing we see…there will be an alternative. They will not see it as the hand of God; an alternate answer. Unity will be called defection. Brokenness will be called instability. Grace will be called a compromise. And the genuinely prophetic will be called false teaching. You see if this does not happen.” ~Beth
(Beth Moore has claimed over and over that she is receiving words from the Lord that are not found in Scriptures and she is also receiving very specific prophecies of future events from the Lord.)
https://living4hisglory.wordpress.com/tag/beth-moore-future-outpouring-prophecy/
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From John MacArthur:
“False teaching denies the authenticity, inspiration, authority, or inerrancy of Scripture”.
(Beth disobeys when she preaches to men, her authority is not Scriptures, she puts words in God’s mouth that God did not say, such as, we were all created to have a supreme romance with God, then she injects herself into stories of the Bible. )
John MacArthur:
“False teachers are not committed to Scripture. They may speak of Jesus and the Father, but the heart of their ministry will not be the Word of God. They will either add to it, take away from it, interpret it in some heretical fashion, add other “revelations” to it, or deny it altogether.”
(Beth Moore isn’t committed to Scriptures when she rebels against God’s commands and adds to God’s Scriptures with her personal revelations.)
https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B140214/the-pathology-of-false-teachers
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(This quote below is one I already touched on earlier where she speaks of Beth changing her belief on homosexuality.
From Justin Peter’s site. Link below)
* Beth wrote this many years ago where she said, “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
(Yes, I agree with Beth on this….. the Gospel means Good News and she is sharing the gospel to the sinners but, then some years later she feels bad and changes her mind and even has it removed from her book.
When being questioned about her belief on homosexuality she makes this comment).
Beth explains, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and adds that she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Why did she change her mind?? She said, “She did so because she worried about what it would do to a “13-year-old struggling with an onslaught of sexual feelings and temptations who has no idea what to do with them”.
She should have never removed that section! If she truly cares about that 13-year-old then she should want her to be confronted with her sin. Beth Moore should want her to realize she is a sinner who faces the wrath of God. And Beth Moore should want her to know that complete forgiveness and transformation are freely offered in the glorious Gospel of Christ. The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
One wonders if Beth Moore really does believe that homosexuality – not just the behavior, but the identity and desire – truly is a deadly sin.
One wonders if she truly does believe that homosexuals can be completely transformed and if she really does “know plenty of believers who have been set free from homosexuality.” If she has indeed witnessed it and does indeed know all of these many people set free from this sin, why, why why would she remove that section?
1 Corinthians 6:9–11 ~Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will …
People are not lost because they are homosexual. They are homosexual because they are lost. The most hateful thing we could do to anyone is to know the truth but not tell him. The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
Justin Peter’s write up https://justinpeters.org/2019/07/my-thoughts-on-beth-moores-blog-post/
(Answer this? How does her earlier statement make homosexuals feel demonized when what she was saying was the Good News, the Gospel?
Here it is: “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
Did she truly “overshoot scripture by a mile there”? Is preaching the Gospel to the lost overshooting Scriptures? Do you believe she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Well, is sharing the Gospel with sinners meant to help the sinner see their sin as evil? Yes! That’s not wrong to show them they are indeed a sinner that is wretched and filthy. But she’s saying that’s wrong.
The Gospel saves people and more times than not it hurts the sinners to hear how they deserve hell but Jesus was punished for them. That’s what makes the gift of salvation precious to them.
When she recanted her older belief of sharing the Good News, THAT is when she exceeded Scriptures.
That is when she denied Jesus and the Gospel.
What she teaches today about homosexuality is silencing the truth which does them no favors and denies them forgiveness and hope in Jesus. They need to find salvation through the truth of the gospel, not ear tickles.
Here is a link that discusses the letter to Beth about her beliefs on homosexuality.
My friend Michelle Lesley shares this:
https://michellelesley.com/tag/beth-moore/
Here is another link where my dear friend Marsha West has shared
Beth calling an open homosexual a brother. Very concerning!

Beth Moore, Sam Allberry Promote Gay Activists, Calls Them “Brothers”


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(The verse below addresses who are truly brothers and sisters on Christ.)
Matthew 12:48-50 ~
But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
The qualifier for being a brother or sister of Christ is “doing the will of the Father.” The ultimate will of the Father is that we love, trust, and obey His Son (John 3:36; 2 Thessalonians 1:8; Romans 2:7–8). When we believe in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ and surrender our lives to His lordship, God adopts us into His family and considers us “joint-heirs” with His Son, Jesus (Romans 8:17; 10:9–10).
* (So is Beth doing the will of the Father? No)
*(Is she loving, trusting and obeying the Son? The answer is from John 14:15-16~ “if you love me you will keep my commandments”. Think carefully about this.
She’s not keeping His commandments which means she is not “obeying” Him AND that means she must not “love” Him either-or “trust” God as the authority.)
*(Does she believe in the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ?
No!
If she did then she would be sharing the gospel to homosexuals and not remove the part of her book that shows her sharing the gospel. She would be more concerned about their souls then hurting their feelings with the truth.)
*(Has Beth surrendered her life to Jesus? Well, does she conform to what is written? No)
*(So answer yourself…looking at that verse, is she a sister in Christ? )
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Paul Washer says, “The Devil uses men to advance his cause against the Kingdom of Christ.”
There are two proclaimers, one is men of truth and the other side are proclaimers of lies.
“They are liars because they do not speak according to what is written.”
False teachers do the following:
* “Young man when you get up into the Pulpit, no one needs to hear from your heart, they need to hear from God’s Word.” (Beth talks all the time about what’s on her heart.)
* “They are hypocritical because they pretend to have a spirituality that is from God but in actuality at best their spirituality is carnal and at worst, it’s demonic”. (The voices Beth hears could be demonic because we know it’s not biblical. )
* “How do you know if one’s spirituality is from God? Because it conforms to what is written.”
(Beth has a hard time doing that.)
* They trivialize the gospel with material prosperity and self-realization.
* Deny the gospel by diminishing the uniqueness of Christ.
* People such as Beth want to unite all religions. Paul Washer says, “They would share in each others Gods and affirm one another”. (Sounds familiar when you see those videos)
* when a church uses anything but the gospel to draw people to the church. ( Beth drawing people by using personal revelations or visions from God…. a fabricated story of God speaking)

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(We do need to be praying for Beth that she would repent and obey God’s Word. I do not wish to hurt her, I don’t enjoy exposing her or the conflict that it causes.
However, God has commanded we warn of false teachings, mark those that deceive and expose them.
I’m trying to help people from being lead astray by her unbiblical teachings just as I was. If it wasn’t for Justin Peter’s sharing truth of false teachers I’d probably still be in it.)

Guest Post – Twisted Tuesday Isaiah 53:5 by Becca Barner

Twisted Tuesday; Isaiah 53:5

By: Becca Barner

Welcome to Twisted Tuesday, Dear Ones. I have the privilege of writing an article about a scripture that is often taken out of context and twisted to fit into a faith-plus-works salvation narrative. The scripture that we are going over today is:

Isaiah 53:5 ESV (English Standard Version)

“5 But he was pierced for our transgressions;

    he was crushed for our iniquities;

upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,

    and with his wounds we are healed.”

I cannot honestly tell you how many times I “spoke this scripture over myself” and others- as though I carried the same power that Christ has. Speaking things into existence is the name of that game; and a very dangerous one at that. It’s a doctrine teaching that the believer carries the same power and authority as Christ; as though our very words carry power. This wades into the pool of “little god” theology, which will drown you if you stay in it. We’ll talk more about this in the future, but for now let’s just say that this doctrine is extremely dangerous/blasphemous.

Graphic-by-Becca-Berean

I remember many years ago when I was heavily blinded by the “Word of Faith” doctrine. I once had a Joyce Meyer book with instructions to read many scriptures like this one aloud to make God do as I wished, like a spiritual genie. This beautiful passage of scripture is not a positive affirmation that we can say aloud to make anything happen. Here is the big theological breakdown of Isaiah 53:3… He was killed for our sins, and by his wounds or “stripes” we now have salvation. It’s that simple folks. 

Now, you’ll still find many of the Word of Faith and Prosperity Gospel teachers trying to twist this scripture. My questions to them are many:

Why do people suffer? Why are we still aging? Why does it hurt to give birth? Etc.

“Faith healers” and false teachers will be held accountable to their misinterpretation of this scripture; false promises, false hope, and above all, a false Gospel. They are lying to many who are possibly in their most dire of circumstances- desperate for a miracle, and so they latch on to anything that gives them hope. My heart goes out to these people, because I happen to struggle with a chronic illness. I also know what it’s like when family and friends tell me that I “need more faith” to be healed, or that there’s some secret sin keeping God from healing me. These are just two examples of the lies I believed a few years ago. 

Christ’s sacrifice is so much more than deliverance from physical suffering. It is the gift of Eternal Salvation. Reading Isaiah 53:5 now should give us so much hope of His Blessed Assurance, for it brings such hope and joy to me. 

Blessings

Twisted Tuesday – Justice Socialized: Introduction

While the title of this new series, beloved, is meant as a play-on-words the topic is very serious. The infiltration of Social Justice within doctrinally sound churches has been as shocking as it is sobering. While it’s long been preached from liberal pulpits, and many pragmatic teachers had adopted the language, it was those whose Biblical stands in the past had been uncompromising, which I was surprised to see using this language. Due to this, and the sinfully hate-filled push back on social media from those who call themselves Social Justice Warriors as well as professing Christians, I’m going to spend a few Twisted Tuesday’s talking about the subject. Unfortunately, this movement does indeed twist Scripture.

This is not surprising, as socialists throughout the 20th century often used Gods Word to justify themselves. Never in proper context, of course, but frequently mingled in with other quotes you’d hear varies Verses twisted in. I’ve discussed Social Justice in the past, warning about the dangers therein. However, it was brief, as I had assumed the movement would be utterly rejected by believers. Since then, it has been accepted by many hook, line, and sinker. It brought along all of its friends, as well, and now troubles the youth of our churches, who already face a myriad of evolutionary, and societal push back at school.

This is, per my usual series style, just an introduction. However, I wanted to, in the very least, give some definitions and an urgent warning. First, the latter. Beloved, do not ignore this. Address it. Even if it’s never been mentioned in your church, address it. Refute it, before it can even make headway. You might not, yet, hear it taught in the pulpit, in group meetings, or Sunday school, but those brothers and sisters your sitting next to are hearing it everywhere. They may not even realize what they’re hearing is Social Justice jargon. Perhaps some of their favorite preachers and teachers to listen to during the week are slipping, or down right diving, into this ditch. It might be subtle, but once the dam breaks rerouting the flood is very difficult. If you’ve not already done so, discuss this with your teens, and preteens, and youth groups.

What is Social Justice? The dictionary defines it in this way “justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.” Currently, this is viewed through the lenses of Critical Race Theory. The definition of CRT, or Critical Race Theory, is “the view that race, instead of being biologically grounded and natural, is socially constructed and that race, as a socially constructed concept, functions as a means to maintain the interests of the white population that constructed it.” Along side SJ, or Social Justice, and CRT, is the idea of reparations. This is defines as “the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.” When you put these three points together, you end up with groups, or sections, which brings us to the last definition I want to give, intersectionality. Webster’s defines this term like this “the complex, cumulative way in which the effects of multiple forms of discrimination (such as racism, sexism, and classism) combine, overlap, or intersect especially in the experiences of marginalized individuals or groups“.

I know that’s a lot of information to take in, and that this is going to be a very difficult, and frustrating topic to address. Please, bare with me over the next few weeks as we flesh this out together. It’s imperative that we are all aware of this movement, which is no longer creeping its way into churches, but making a full on attack. It’s a dangerously divisive movement, which purposefully sets groups against one another. If the left and right leg won’t go in the same direction, the body goes nowhere. We must hold to unity with believers, regardless of race, sex, or class. We are one body, in Christ. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Twisted Tuesday – Does the Bible Approve of Rape?

Obviously, dear ones, you already know where I’m going to come down on this question. A resounding, NO. I hate this topic, in all honesty, I can’t even stand writing the word. Hollywood has taken to portraying this heinous act in the filth they release on a daily basis. Without the previous standards, steaming companies can create movies and shows that are far more graphic than anything our culture has ever excepted before. The type of scenes shown, even in particular shows addressed towards teens, contain the graphic nature of what was once unspeakable. Only the most vile of lust filled sinners would secretly watch this type of pornography. Now, you can see it on highly rated television series in crystal clear, high definition. What does the world say when Christians find this behavior disgusting? God approved of rape in the Bible.

The verse being twisted today is Deuteronomy 22:23-29, although they will only quote verses 28 and 29. The reason for that? Well, if you read it in context the actual accusation falls apart. What is said is that here, in Deuteronomy, God forces the raped woman to marry her assaulter. This, rewarding the rapist and punishing the victim. What does this passage actually say? If a man finds a woman and rapes her, he is to die. Rape, in Gods Word, is a crime worthy of capital punishment. Can a dead man marry someone? No, of course not, the verse where a man must marry the woman is referring to a consensual act. In other words, if it’s found out that a woman is not engaged or married, yet willingly sleeps with a man, when it’s found out the man must marry her and can not divorce her. This is to protect the woman, to ensure that any man who would sleep with a woman knew he would be responsible for marrying her.

What about crying out? At this point in history, and for most of the past, the Jewish and Christian culture sought to protect the purity of women. Recognizing that a man could easily over power a woman, it was not common for them to be in town without family members. Someone would hear a woman cry out, showing it was not consensual, and the man would be put to death. Again, this does not approve of rape, or reward the rapist, it soundly shows Gods hatred for this sin. Why? Because women are made in the image of God, and to desecrate a woman in this way is a direct assault against an image barer. Regardless of how obvious this is, you will still come across this argument fairly often.

The reason we see this argument, albeit as weak as it can get, is due to the wicked desire of a lost heart to make God sinful. To feel confident in their own sin, the world seeks to suppress the truth of God’s righteousness by cherry picking verses, ripping them out of their context, and using them to accuse God. The world wants to sit on the judgement seat, they want to put God in trial, they want to be gods themselves. This idolatry should not surprise us, however I hope that this post will help you to better answer when you have this thrown your way. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved!

Twisted Tuesday – Foreknowledge

Hello all, I hope this post has found you doing well. As I mentioned in my last Twisted post, when I study and read Gods Word I’m often reminded of errant theology taught to me during my decade-plus time as a goat amongst the sheep. When I was first saved by Gods grace I had a deep desire to understand as much as I possibly could about this God that would rescue a wretch like myself. I wanted to know His attributes, to hear His word, to rid myself of all the misconceptions I had of Christianity. I never let go of the first verse I read as a new creation, 1 Corinthians 8:2.

We have a tendency, as sons and daughters of Adam, to sinfully let knowledge puff us up. I certainly was full of pride, and ego, before God rescued me from the chains of sin and death. I had no idea of the tremendous amount of knowledge that I didn’t know. Who God is, what He has done, why He has done it, how can we know, all these subjects to study and only one little me! I lost sleep, in my deep desire to understand, I let my daily ministry of serving my family slip. I skipped meals, prayer, devotion, I forgot to grocery shop, pay bills, and organize homeschooling lessons. I dug and dug, and frustratingly came back with opinions ranging from what I know today is rank heresy, to the actual truth. I didn’t know what I didn’t know. I needed structure, discipline, and patience, but instead ended up falling into legalism. God is kind to His children, He prunes us, His rod and His staff comfort us, He patiently sanctifies us.

I had to throw it all out, friends, and start from the foundations of my faith, slowly building on the Rock. Everything I knew, or thought I knew, had to be checked against Gods Word. So, with that being said, you can imagine how overjoyed I am when I hear solid preachers teaching on the attributes of God! The Father’s foreknowledge isn’t discussed much in the groups I learned from before being born again. However, it was described exactly how Dr. Lawson says it is in the clip below. As if God had looked through time, learned what man would do, and went from there. Now, knowing that God does not learn, His attributes show that He is all knowing, I can see how wrong that perspective is. Twisting Gods Word often leads to a twisted view of God Himself.

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/daily-video/2019/02/13/the-foreknowledge-of-god/

You see, dear ones, that God has not seen into the future, but that there is a much more beautiful exegesis for the verses referring to Gods foreknowledge. To know, in an intimate, or unique, way, those whom He has called. What is this love? What is this that God has done for those He calls? To save us, wretched, rebellious, God-hating sinners, by sending His only begotten Son to die in our place? To adopt us? To sanctify us? To justify us? Not a single sinner on Earth has ever deserved this love. And yet, as if to further shine a light on the darkness of man’s wicked heart, He reveals in His Word that He knows us? Intimately, deeply, uniquely, knows us? We’re talking about the one true God, creator of the universe, whose ways are always righteous and just, who’s loving kindness knows no bounds, whose power is beyond comprehension. That God, has known us? How can anyone twist such a beautiful doctrine into such a sinful one? Well, beloved, I did. Before I was saved I would have touted this exact heresy.

To make man more, and God less seems to be the purpose of every verse taken out of context. Brothers and sisters, God can not, and does not, learn anything. Everything that ever was or will be was already known to Him before the Earth was made. If you have repented of your sins, put your faith in Christ, and been born again by Gods grace, then you too were forknown. If you have not been born again, if there’s never been a time when you were made into a new creation that now loves what God loves and hates what God hates, then your sins of lying, lusting, coveting, and idolatry are a direct offense against this great God. That’s the bad news. The Good News of the Gospel is that Jesus Christ, fully man and fully God, came and lived a sinless life, dying in our place, to save whosoever would believe. Repent, turn away, from your sins, and cry out to God for salvation. Only by one name, Christ and Christ alone, can man be saved. There is no other hope for sinners to be saved. As always, beloved brethren, be good Bereans, and study to show yourselves approved.

Twisted Tuesday – The Pearl of Great Price

If you, my friends, have ever sat under man-centered preaching you’ve no doubt heard repeatedly how great you are in God’s eyes. Although this is the exact opposite of what Christ preached during His Earthly ministry, and all of Scripture agrees, it doesn’t seem to sell as well. As many of you know, I spent a fair amount of time in the Word of Faith movement, more than a decade. God saved me out of that by His grace, and while I’ll never understand that as a wretch completely deserving of Hell, I will be eternally grateful to my Lord! It still catches me off guard when in my studies, or devotional time, I find a verse that was often taken out of context. This is what has happened with Matthew 13:44-46.

First I want to clear something up that’s very important. The reason Jesus gives for teaching in parables is completely different than the reason often given today. While I researched this I found several groups, including LDS, teaching that Christ was speaking in parables to reach His listeners. This is the exact opposite of what Jesus was doing. Having been rejected by the Jewish leaders and accused of casting out demons by the power of Satan, He spoke in parables so that they would not understand. He then explained them to His disciples privately. He tells us this prior to the parable in question, back in verse 13 of the same chapter. It’s also written in Luke 8:10 and Mark 4:12, and is a fulfillment of the Old Testament Scriptures.

Back to the parable itself, I can clearly remember being told that the man in this parable is Jesus, and of course, we’re the treasure He bought at a great price. While it’s true that our salvation came at a great price, that’s not what these verses are referring to. Over and over again, while I researched the different views of these parables attempting to find where the disconnect started, I found this same error. We’re the treasure in the field, Christ left heaven to purchase us. We’re the pearl of great price, Christ paid it all to redeem us. But a clear reading of the parables shows a very obvious picture. The kingdom of heaven is the treasure, we’re the ones that must count the cost. Ligioneer Ministries does an excellent job of fleshing this one out in this devotional here.

Mankind seems obsessed with bringing God lower and elevating man’s position higher. We love to hear how important we are, we feed on the twisting of Scripture with itching ears, so long as it builds up our inflated egos. Scripture is clear throughout, God is the only one who deserves glory, honor, and praise. Christ did not come to die for us because we are so great, but because our sins are so great. He is loving, kind, and merciful. He is also just, righteous, and holy. It would be entirely just for God to save none of the rebellious, God-hating, sinners on this Earth. It is an extreme example of His endless kindness that He saves some. The kingdom of God is of inestimable value, and when we consider this we willingly sell all that we have and follow Christ.

Please understand, dear ones, this does not mean that we need to be homeless and give everything away. It means the kingdom is worth turning our back on the worldly sins we once loved, like speaking wealth and fame. It’s worth humbling ourselves, casting aside pride, destroying the ego, and bowing our knee to the one true Savior. We must love Christ more than husband or wife, mother or father, son or daughter, because His kingdom is of endless value, and He is worthy! If you have repented and put your faith in Christ, then you have been saved, and adopted into His kingdom. That is a true treasure, that is what is of great price! It also does not mean that you are not loved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes on Him may not die but have everlasting life. But this text is not about us, it doesn’t give us any glory, there is nothing here for us to boast in.

We couldn’t even make our own heartbeat without Gods sovereign will continuing the electrical pulse pushing and pulling inside you. If you think that’s not true, go and search for the men and women who’s heart stops with no warning. We don’t even own the air we breathe, it’s borrowed from the One who created it. You, oh man, you think you are high and lifted up? Do you think you are of an inestimable price? What could we possibly offer God? Nothing. Nothing in my hands I bring, simply to the cross I cling. God has saved us, not because of our worth, but because He is merciful. This man-centered preaching is designed to draw men in, make them feel good about themselves, and give them the impression that the man standing on the stage is such a good and kind man. For love of self, men preach falsehood! They want to be liked, they want to be adored, to hear their name spoken well of. Who is deserving of all honor, praise, and glory? The thrice holy God, or a hireling that calls himself an undershepherd? When the wolves come, and they will come, these men flee!

Let us avoid man-centered preaching and teaching, and rather take God’s Word seriously enough to read it in its context. If you have been saved you have no need of bolstering, you’ve already received enough kindness and mercy to carry you through eternity. We must spend our days here glorifying God and making Him known to the lost. We will give an account to God for every idle word spoken, every word my beloved friends! God is great, He is kind, He is worthy, but even our righteousness is as filthy rags! How can we ever consider ourselves to be pearls of great price? No, dear ones, humble yourselves before such a great God, and give Him all the glory! As always, beloved brethren, be good Bereans and study to show yourselves approved.