Guest Post – More on Moore by Tami Dykes

Below, dear friends, is a post written by a listener of Tulips & Honey. She wrote this on FaceBook and gave me permission to publish it here on the blog. I hope this gives more clarity on why Beth Moore is such a dangerous teacher. You can find Tami on FB here. As always, beloved brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.


Many think that in spite of the bad doctrine that Beth Moore teaches, that she is our sister in Christ and that we should not call her a false teacher or false prophet.
I will show you in this write up why I don’t believe she is a sister in Christ and why I do believe her to be a false teacher.
I believe women need to test any Bible study teacher they are considering.
The best example in Scriptures is the Bereans.
As most know, it’s not easy but necessary.
I am not throwing stones at her or trying to be mean or hateful, I’m trying to warn others that are caught up in her unbiblical doctrine.
As Ezekiel 3:16-21 explains why the warning is needed.
20 Again, if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits injustice, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die. Because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require at your hand. 21 But if you warn the righteous person not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning, and you will have delivered your soul.”
I can’t explain in just one sentence my take on Beth Moore because there is so much that she teaches that’s bad. People need to be warned.
I will post references and examples and my own comments will be in parenthesis.
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(The people that have woke up to her deception agree that much of her bad doctrine is “secretly introduce” into her studies just as this verse says and her followers just don’t see it.)
Scripture says in 2 Peter 2:1-3 of False Teachers and Their Destruction…
“But there were also false prophets
among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.
They will “secretly introduce” destructive “heresies”, even “denying the sovereign Lord” who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed, these teachers will exploit you with “fabricated stories”.
Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”
(Beth Moore definitely has fabricated stories because her preaching is based much on her own thoughts and voices in her head or what she feels in her heart.
She often says, “God told me in my heart” or “God laid it on my heart”, about a special revelation that she claims she has from God, which we are unable to test or find in Scriptures.
From the verse above, we see that heresy which is any belief contrary to biblical doctrine and anything that denies or rejects the teaching of Jesus is destructive.
Would you say that anyone that purposely changes, twists, adds or takes away from God’s Law, God’s Word, has denied and rejected truth? Have they denied Jesus’ teachings?
Yes! Because after they have done this they have made a new and different doctrine, a different Bible, a different God. The Truth has been denied, the Bible has been denied and God has been denied.
She is not a solid biblical teacher and as my friends from Tulips and Honey podcast even say, not only should she NOT teach men but she shouldn’t even be teaching women.
Lauren and Becca, I agree!)
podcast is here:

Deuteronomy 12:32~ “Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.
(So, looking at this verse ask yourself, is Beth doing what God commands? No, she is completely rebelling by preaching and holding authority over men in churches along with so much more.
Is Beth adding and taking away from God’s commands? Yes. Every time she inserts herself into Scriptures or twist Scriptures to fit her message and every time she tells of a personal revelation.)
(This verse below speaks volumes concerning Beth.)
“If you love me, you will keep my commands,” He says, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever” (John 14:15-16).
(Start with the very first sentence of that verse.
Does Beth love Him? Well, does she keep God’s commands?
I’d say no because God commands women to be submissive and not have the authority of men. God commands us to not add or take away from His Word but her extra-biblical teachings (revelations) add and takes away. God commands us to obey God’s Word but her refusal to obey God’s commands tells us she does not love Him.
It’s not like Beth had no idea she was teaching this way or she had no idea she was teaching people bad doctrine or she didn’t know she was in rebellion. She has been confronted on many things by many well known Bible teachers so she can’t act shocked and say, “Ooops I accidentally taught something wrong”.
So this is a clear indication she is in rebellion and does not love God’s Word.)
(The last part of that verse tells us Jesus knows that keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.)
(My thought here is this if keeping His commands in this fallen world will require a divine source of power in the form of the Holy Spirit’s presence living within us.
With Beth not keeping His commands, what’s that say about the Holy Spirit in her?
What’s that say about Beth? Yeah, not good.)
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(Biblical doctrine teaches us the nature and the character of God.
Beth changes His character and makes God someone He is not.
A good example is when she tells everyone to have a “romance” with Him as she states in a simulcast of what she calls mighty makers.
You tell me if the following is Biblical doctrine)…
From Chapter 3 Ministries:
“According to Mrs. Moore, “mighty makers” (there are 6 of them) are things we can do to make sure we get on a list that will be in heaven of the mighty men and women who were willing to stand up and fight the good fight with the shield of faith and sword of the Spirit. No Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it. What was given was her belief that “There will be “chronicles of the wars that have taken place on the globe when we get to heaven”.
(Wow, I have never read in Scriptures of a list called “Mighty Makers” that will be in heaven.)
“Mrs. Moore has a lot of confidence in her “mighty makers,” She said this about them. “There is no way around any one of them.”
“She felt very strongly about the first one. She said this about it, “This is foremost, number one, and it’s the part of it that makes me want to sob my eyes out.”
“Again, no Bible verse was given for this list or for her claim that her “mighty makers” will get us on it.”
Her Mighty Maker #1 is this:
“The audacity to make an unseen Savior the supreme romance of your life.”
“According to Mrs. Moore, that is what we were created for.”
(Really? This is the reason God created us, men and women? To have a romance with Jesus?
Ask yourself here, is this Biblical doctrine?)
“Mrs. Moore said that when we get to heaven, in spite of all we’ve been through on earth, if Jesus became the driving desire of our lives, we will say to him, “You know what? You were a blast. You were a blast. My life wasn’t a blast; a whole lot of it wasn’t very fun. But I’m gonna tell You something, You romanced me and You wooed me and You pursued me and I think You are a blast.”
The lady taking notes at this simulcast says: “I am very confident that I will not say these words to Jesus, nor would I ever speak to him in a way I would deem disrespectful. In heaven, I will be overtaken by his awesomeness, not chatting with him like he was my high school boyfriend.
Additionally, during the simulcast, no verses were given that spoke about romance with Jesus.”

2015 Living Proof Live Simulcast Review Part One


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(Beth also shows how she’s not worried about preaching in churches every time she preaches in churches. This comes across to many that God is probably more than fine with her breaking His commandments of women preaching to men.
Yes, I’m aware that women preaching in churches is only a secondary issue but it doesn’t mean it’s not an issue at all. What it means is, they are not obedient to God’s commands…and what did God say about those that keep His commands? That they love Him. Beth is not keeping to His commands every single time she preaches and hold authority over a man. What example is that to the body of believers that set in church and watch her do this?
As scriptures says, many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Beth is teaching women all over the world that this is ok. Women are following their dangerous conduct.)
John MacArthur says “Titus 2:3 shows it’s ok for women to teach but they are to teach the young. He says mature women are to be reverent in their behavior.
“Reverent behavior would be obedience to the Word of God. Would you be a reverent woman if you were a woman preacher?”, “You can’t say you are a woman preacher preaching the Bible and be by virtue of that very roll dishonoring God and His Word.”, “All these women running around as preachers, supposedly teaching the Bible, are defying what the Bible says.” “The most popular woman preacher today (referring to Beth) says, “Well Paul’s not Jesus and Jesus told me to Preach”.
(Here’s a thought…How can God say in His own Law that He forbids a woman to teach or have authority over men and then Jesus decides to go against that and tells Beth she needs to preach to men and women in churches? Is this a sister in Christ? A woman that disobeys the Law and contradicts God’s own Word and puts words in God’s mouth is a sister in Christ? No. Sorry, she is not. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtSRfNO5xo
When we accept the Bible as God’s Word to us (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20–21), we have a solid foundation for our doctrine.
Second Peter 1:20 says that “no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation.”
“There is a right interpretation of everything God says, and it is our job to discern that meaning, not create an interpretation to suit our tastes.” (And it shouldn’t be Beth’s interpretation either when she claims new prophecies for today’s time, making the Scriptures nonauthoritative.)
https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-doctrine.html
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(She is a false Prophet. Why do I say that? Because she has publically stated for YEARS, probably over 10 years, that God gives her messages and she says God has even told her things that she says will come true in the future, just as Prophets do.
An example would be in these video several years back,
Where Beth Moore Predicts God Will soon Unite All Sectors of Christendom.)
Videos here:

(She says in one video, “God has placed it on my heart to tell you”….and continues saying God is telling her to get prepared for something that’s coming…….hmmm, what’s coming? Awakening and
downpour is coming. She tells the audience that it will be Christians that will be the ones arguing with them about it and others will say, “that’s not what it looks like”.)
(Basically, she means we are going to say, “No, that is not biblical.” She calls us bullies and mean spirited if we argue about it or disagree with her prophecy.
The words “Go Home” don’t seem so bad when you hear her say this about other Christians.
The other video she says, God tells her that He will unite every sector and every denomination.)
She says: “I believe that out of His great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us.
She says: “As clearly as I know how to discern what He laid upon my heart, I feel like, I am bringing it to you, as I understand it. I think what we will see if not now, very, very soon is Him (God) pushing this point with us over and over”.
(We know many religions believe very differently from those that stand on the Word of God as the ultimate authority.
The Word of Faith, International House of Prayer, Mormons, Buddhists, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witness and lots more believe very differently and are unbiblical that we can not be yoked together with.
This verse below tells us God has no intention of uniting His Church with darkness.)
2 Corinthians 6:14-16~Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”
(If God walks among us how can we unite with churches that pray to the dead or even angel’s just because they bare the name church?
Why would God allow us to hold hands with other Christians that have idols and look to statues for answered prayers and those that have love of money just because they bare the name, Christian?
Would God be pleased that we have united with churches that don’t believe Jesus is the Son of God but instead a brother of Satan? What about uniting with churches that believe if you name it then you can claim it. Would God allow those churches just because they bare the name church? Will God allow them to be ok where they are and still unite us all?
Biblically, there should be no divisions between true believers of Christ. Don’t we need to be like-minded to be united and in agreement with the Word?
With those churches we are divided, we are not like-minded and we don’t have the same beliefs.)
1 Corinthians 5:11~But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
2 John 1:10-11~ If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
1 Corinthians 1:10~ I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
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* (Another prophecy, where she talks about God telling Beth that He wants her to take money to a bus stop to give to a person that will show up later on, so she has to wait. She says God gave her the vision.
In the video, she sounds like a medium explaining the vision in certain detail as given to her from God. But, what if, God didn’t say it? She is crediting God with this prophecy.
But look at this warning God gives.)
Deuteronomy 13:1-3~”If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”
(Satan masquerade as light remember. Every time someone speaks of a personal revelation they always say, “God told me”. Why don’t people say, “Satan told me?”
Because saying that doesn’t make anyone special.)
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From: The End Time
Romans 16:17~Final Instructions and Greetings
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Beth Moore’s Direct revelation from a voice in her heart that she says is God, is an “obstacle”. How? You will hear Moore deliver a “teaching” she received directly from Jesus, and then say “test it,” but we can’t … because it’s from her own mind and not from the Bible. We have to rely on her and her special relationship with Jesus for the “teaching”. In so doing, she has inserted herself between us and Jesus, creating an extra step and a barrier directly to Him that everyone else can get simply by reading His word. Without her teaching from a vision, you would not know about it, so the teaching depends on HER, not Jesus.
–the false teacher “takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit” (Colossians 2:8). They take you captive by the method above. Once you start buying into Moore’s or other false teachers’ vision-teachings, you HAVE to keep following them in order to hear it explained again, or to receive more teachings. It comes from them so you have to keep following them to see what they will say next. Pretty soon her philosophy and deceit have captured you.
—For certain people have crept in unnoticed (Jude 1:4). Easy enough- they creep, and they’re unnoticed.
So, sister, do not feel bad if you’ve been duped or feel that your discernment skills are slow to grow.
Info taken from this link…
Discernment Lesson: Deconstructing Beth Moore’s most popular story
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“Beth explains some of her revelations aren’t always right. She says, “God kept repeating a word over and over to my heart: unbelief. Unbelief! I kept sensing Him saying, “My people are suffering from unbelief!” At the time I felt that this word was a separate message from the material He was beginning to give me for Breaking Free… As clearly as a bell, God spoke to my heart through His Spirit and said, “The answer to your question is the sin of unbelief.”
She continues: … Suppose I heard God correctly. (I have certainly misread Him before!). Why do you think not believing God personally and lavishly loves us could be a sin? ”
(Moore, “Breaking Free,” p. 211-212).
**Take careful notice of the contradictions in her statement above. The message from God was as clear as a bell, but she has misread God before and is worried she may have misread Him again. How does she misread a statement that is as clear a bell? Simply put, if she has spoken a single statement that was declared to be from God but was not really from God, then she is a false prophet. This is extremely serious. Moore does not take seriously the danger of falsely proclaiming that she is speaking the words of God.”
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“In this next example of non-Biblical revelation, Moore relates the story of a woman who approached her during a speaking engagement in Louisiana:
Beth says: With obvious anointing, she told the story we’re about to study, then she said: “I don’t know you, Beth. I have no idea why God sent me with such a message to give you, but He told me clearly to say these words to you: ‘Tell her that her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much’” (Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 91).
She later continues regarding this story with: He simply sent a woman to deliver His word—that I was forgiven. He whispered to my spirit, “Now, My child, be at peace.”
Oh, how I would love to be that woman to you today. Allow me to pull up my chair right in front of you, look you in the eye, and tell you what He told me to say: “Your many sins have been forgiven—for you love much.” Go in peace
(Moore, “Jesus the One and Only,” p. 95).
In this case, Moore has placed non-Biblical revelation above the written Word of God. The Bible was not sufficient to convince Moore that her sins were forgiven, but this stranger who claimed to get a word from God was able to. Now, Moore wants you to trust what she says about your forgiveness rather than point you to the God-breathed words of the Bible for that assurance. We should heed the warning of Scripture:
[For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (NASB, 2 Corinthians 11:13-14).]
Trust the Bible, not messages from Beth Moore or anyone else no matter how spiritual or even Christ-like they may sound.”
https://thekingsdale.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/beth-moore-false-teacher/
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Link below discussed 3 things to look for with False teachers.
Quotes taken from this link:
//www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html
#1.) How do they treat the teachings of Christ? (She abuses it)
In 2 John 9, we read, “Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”
(Beth doesn’t treat the teachings of Christ accurately. She has changed the teachings of Christ many times. Every time she changes the story in Scriptures to match an event in her life or to insert herself.
She changes it when she lessens the authority of Scriptures by teaching women that Scripture is not the final authority but that personal revelation is just as authoritative. God’s Word says…“Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God.” (Ouch)
Then there is this new one where
Beth changes Scriptures when she tweets out this.)
“I believe wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth. But the persons themselves – Paul and Jesus – are not equals. I know this is hard for some to swallow, but Paul is not our Savior. Paul would be horrified, I believe, by the way, he has been deified.” ~ Beth”
(The reason the whole Jesus/Paul came up was because it’s in the writings of Paul that women are said not to be in authority over a man. Several other women have used the same argument, “I’m not a follower of Paul, I’m a follower of Jesus” as if the red letters are all we are to obey. ALL of Scripture is God’s Word, not just the red letters. This is a contradiction because she is referring to Scriptures here. She says she believes Scriptures is authoritative but then turns around and says Paul’s and Jesus are not equal after that.
Two things here…First, if she truly believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.” Why did she see the need to distinguish the difference between Paul and Jesus? In her tweet, no one said anything about holding Paul above Jesus in any way. Why did she throw that out there?
Second, if she believes “wholeheartedly that ALL Scripture is inspired by God. Authoritative. Truth.”
why does she teach more from her own special Revaluations?
Beth holds more closely to her own personal revelation (the voice in her head that she believes is from God.) than she does to Scriptures.
As a result of this tweet, this brought into question both Paul’s person and his teachings. When you look at that tweet there are a lot of people very confused as to what she is meaning and why she said that.)
The link below states: “While it is true that “Paul and Jesus – do not equal” it is true that the words of Christ and the words of Paul ARE equal. Why? Because Jesus stated of himself “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) meaning he was God in the flesh.
The Word of God, all of it from Genesis to Revelation is Christ’s Words.”
If You Are Not Following Paul, Then You Are Not Following Jesus
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#2) “Does this teacher preach the gospel?
The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements “God loves you,” “God wants us to feed the hungry,” and “God wants you to be wealthy” are not the complete message of the gospel.
As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, “Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.” No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. “If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:9)
…..(Beth does preach a different gospel when she changes her mind about homosexuality) and says, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and says that she “exceeded Scripture.”
(This is lessening the sexual sin they live in.)
The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
#3.)Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord?
(No, Beth regularly shows Pride and rebellion. She doesn’t turn away from her mishandling of Scriptures or repent from it.)
Gotquestions: Jude 11 says, “They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s “rebellion.” In other words, a false teacher can be known by his “pride” (Cain’s “rejection” of God’s plan), “greed” (Balaam’s prophesying for money), and “rebellion” (Korah’s promotion of himself over Moses).
(Beth is certainly in “rebellion” and known for her “pride”. Beth has pridefully “rejected” the authority of Scriptures and rebelled against God’s commands by ignoring what God has said about women preaching and so much more.)
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(Examples of her “fabricated stories” that can not be linked to Scriptures found below.)
*She tells a story in a video about her being on a porch and God gave her a vision.
Beth said, “And tonight I’m going to do my absolute best to illustrate to you something that God showed me out on that back porch. He put a picture…I’ve explained to you before I am a very visual person…so He speaks to me very often of putting a picture in my head. And it was as if I was raised up looking down on a community, as I saw the church in that particular dimension- certainly not all dimensions, not even in many, but in what we will discuss tonight, the church, as Jesus sees it, in a particular dimension.”
(People, Beth is telling everyone, that God gave her a vision and special revelation that is not in Scriptures. It’s so dangerous to tag God’s name on something like that. )
*Then there is another story when Beth Moore says: “(God) began to say to me, ‘I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth, and boy you write this one down, and you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it….'”
*Another story where Beth says God told her to brush an old man’s hair at an airport and she actually argues with God about it.
Where is her fear of the Lord???
*Another story she says, “Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.”
Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in the near future for a number of days off. “God spoke to my heart” one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.”
* Then in another video (which I mentioned earlier), Beth Moore Predicts God Will Unite All Sectors of Christendom.
She says, “I believe, that out of his great mercy, God is about to push this envelope with us…Listen, test the spirits and pray about this to see if it is so, but as clearly as I know how to discern what he has laid upon my heart I feel like I am bringing it to you as I understand it. But I think what we will see, if not now, very very soon, is him pushing this point with us, over and over and over, because I think it is very possible that what has satisfied you before will no longer satisfy you now.”
Scripture instead says this,
Romans 16:17~I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles “contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them”.
(Does she have correct biblical doctrine???)
*In another one, Beth says God tells her a future prophecy. You will hear Beth Moore talk about scoffers who will come and speak out against the awakening and downpours; the outpouring that she believes God is telling her is coming.
Beth quote:
“What God began to show me, is that it would not just come from the…mean spirited. The scoffers…I believe that God put on my heart…please test the spirit, pray and see if this…is confirmed to you in prayer and in the study of the Word… I believe that He placed it on my heart that the scoffers will have an alternative answer for everything; an alternative for every single thing we see…there will be an alternative. They will not see it as the hand of God; an alternate answer. Unity will be called defection. Brokenness will be called instability. Grace will be called a compromise. And the genuinely prophetic will be called false teaching. You see if this does not happen.” ~Beth
(Beth Moore has claimed over and over that she is receiving words from the Lord that are not found in Scriptures and she is also receiving very specific prophecies of future events from the Lord.)
https://living4hisglory.wordpress.com/tag/beth-moore-future-outpouring-prophecy/
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From John MacArthur:
“False teaching denies the authenticity, inspiration, authority, or inerrancy of Scripture”.
(Beth disobeys when she preaches to men, her authority is not Scriptures, she puts words in God’s mouth that God did not say, such as, we were all created to have a supreme romance with God, then she injects herself into stories of the Bible. )
John MacArthur:
“False teachers are not committed to Scripture. They may speak of Jesus and the Father, but the heart of their ministry will not be the Word of God. They will either add to it, take away from it, interpret it in some heretical fashion, add other “revelations” to it, or deny it altogether.”
(Beth Moore isn’t committed to Scriptures when she rebels against God’s commands and adds to God’s Scriptures with her personal revelations.)
https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B140214/the-pathology-of-false-teachers
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(This quote below is one I already touched on earlier where she speaks of Beth changing her belief on homosexuality.
From Justin Peter’s site. Link below)
* Beth wrote this many years ago where she said, “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
(Yes, I agree with Beth on this….. the Gospel means Good News and she is sharing the gospel to the sinners but, then some years later she feels bad and changes her mind and even has it removed from her book.
When being questioned about her belief on homosexuality she makes this comment).
Beth explains, “I made people feel demonized. I overshot scripture by a mile” and adds that she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Why did she change her mind?? She said, “She did so because she worried about what it would do to a “13-year-old struggling with an onslaught of sexual feelings and temptations who has no idea what to do with them”.
She should have never removed that section! If she truly cares about that 13-year-old then she should want her to be confronted with her sin. Beth Moore should want her to realize she is a sinner who faces the wrath of God. And Beth Moore should want her to know that complete forgiveness and transformation are freely offered in the glorious Gospel of Christ. The sinner must be made to realize the seriousness of sin before the mercy of God will become precious.
One wonders if Beth Moore really does believe that homosexuality – not just the behavior, but the identity and desire – truly is a deadly sin.
One wonders if she truly does believe that homosexuals can be completely transformed and if she really does “know plenty of believers who have been set free from homosexuality.” If she has indeed witnessed it and does indeed know all of these many people set free from this sin, why, why why would she remove that section?
1 Corinthians 6:9–11 ~Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will …
People are not lost because they are homosexual. They are homosexual because they are lost. The most hateful thing we could do to anyone is to know the truth but not tell him. The most loving thing we can do is to tell him the truth. And the truth is that through the Gospel, a homosexual can join the “such were some of you.”
Justin Peter’s write up https://justinpeters.org/2019/07/my-thoughts-on-beth-moores-blog-post/
(Answer this? How does her earlier statement make homosexuals feel demonized when what she was saying was the Good News, the Gospel?
Here it is: “I have wonderful news for anyone who has struggled with homosexual sin, God indeed can deliver you and anxiously awaits your full cooperation”.
Did she truly “overshoot scripture by a mile there”? Is preaching the Gospel to the lost overshooting Scriptures? Do you believe she “exceeded Scripture and singled out same-sex sin as particularly satanic.”
Well, is sharing the Gospel with sinners meant to help the sinner see their sin as evil? Yes! That’s not wrong to show them they are indeed a sinner that is wretched and filthy. But she’s saying that’s wrong.
The Gospel saves people and more times than not it hurts the sinners to hear how they deserve hell but Jesus was punished for them. That’s what makes the gift of salvation precious to them.
When she recanted her older belief of sharing the Good News, THAT is when she exceeded Scriptures.
That is when she denied Jesus and the Gospel.
What she teaches today about homosexuality is silencing the truth which does them no favors and denies them forgiveness and hope in Jesus. They need to find salvation through the truth of the gospel, not ear tickles.
Here is a link that discusses the letter to Beth about her beliefs on homosexuality.
My friend Michelle Lesley shares this:
https://michellelesley.com/tag/beth-moore/
Here is another link where my dear friend Marsha West has shared
Beth calling an open homosexual a brother. Very concerning!

Beth Moore, Sam Allberry Promote Gay Activists, Calls Them “Brothers”


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(The verse below addresses who are truly brothers and sisters on Christ.)
Matthew 12:48-50 ~
But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
The qualifier for being a brother or sister of Christ is “doing the will of the Father.” The ultimate will of the Father is that we love, trust, and obey His Son (John 3:36; 2 Thessalonians 1:8; Romans 2:7–8). When we believe in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ and surrender our lives to His lordship, God adopts us into His family and considers us “joint-heirs” with His Son, Jesus (Romans 8:17; 10:9–10).
* (So is Beth doing the will of the Father? No)
*(Is she loving, trusting and obeying the Son? The answer is from John 14:15-16~ “if you love me you will keep my commandments”. Think carefully about this.
She’s not keeping His commandments which means she is not “obeying” Him AND that means she must not “love” Him either-or “trust” God as the authority.)
*(Does she believe in the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ?
No!
If she did then she would be sharing the gospel to homosexuals and not remove the part of her book that shows her sharing the gospel. She would be more concerned about their souls then hurting their feelings with the truth.)
*(Has Beth surrendered her life to Jesus? Well, does she conform to what is written? No)
*(So answer yourself…looking at that verse, is she a sister in Christ? )
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Paul Washer says, “The Devil uses men to advance his cause against the Kingdom of Christ.”
There are two proclaimers, one is men of truth and the other side are proclaimers of lies.
“They are liars because they do not speak according to what is written.”
False teachers do the following:
* “Young man when you get up into the Pulpit, no one needs to hear from your heart, they need to hear from God’s Word.” (Beth talks all the time about what’s on her heart.)
* “They are hypocritical because they pretend to have a spirituality that is from God but in actuality at best their spirituality is carnal and at worst, it’s demonic”. (The voices Beth hears could be demonic because we know it’s not biblical. )
* “How do you know if one’s spirituality is from God? Because it conforms to what is written.”
(Beth has a hard time doing that.)
* They trivialize the gospel with material prosperity and self-realization.
* Deny the gospel by diminishing the uniqueness of Christ.
* People such as Beth want to unite all religions. Paul Washer says, “They would share in each others Gods and affirm one another”. (Sounds familiar when you see those videos)
* when a church uses anything but the gospel to draw people to the church. ( Beth drawing people by using personal revelations or visions from God…. a fabricated story of God speaking)

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(We do need to be praying for Beth that she would repent and obey God’s Word. I do not wish to hurt her, I don’t enjoy exposing her or the conflict that it causes.
However, God has commanded we warn of false teachings, mark those that deceive and expose them.
I’m trying to help people from being lead astray by her unbiblical teachings just as I was. If it wasn’t for Justin Peter’s sharing truth of false teachers I’d probably still be in it.)

Thursday Switch-A-Roo – Snatch Them From the Flames

Usually on Thursdays I do a book review, today I want to switch things up beloved. There is a resource available at Wretched.Org right now that is totally free, and very instructive. It’s called Snatch Them From the Flames, it’s a conversation between Todd Freakishly Tall Friel and the Doctor of Discernment himself, Justin Peters. In this discussion they cover everything from the attraction of the NAR, false doctrines taught in it, to lovingly snatching friends and family out of the movement. The conversation itself was filmed during a break in the Shepherds Conference, so it’s very impromptu.

As I mentioned before, it’s free, however you do need to give an email address so the link can be sent to you. You’ll be given an option to be sent a free DVD if that’s preferred, to download it, or to watch it in sections online. Many of you know I came out of the Charismatic Movement, God graciously saved me and snatched me out of the flames. I still have many friends and family members involved, so this was very helpful. As we see the movements toxic doctrines seep into solid churches, we’re more likely than ever to need this instruction. I hope you’ll all be as blessed by this as I was! As always, dear ones, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

https://www.wretched.org/flames/

Wednesday Testimonies – Timothy Olenyo of Africa

Hey there, dear ones! I hope this post has found you all doing well. I’d like to continue to highlight Hearcry Missionary Society’s testimonies. Below we see that there are many forms of false work based religions in Africa, many claiming to be Christian. Join me, beloved, in praying for our brothers and sisters in Christ that are fighting the good fight in the missions field of Africa. ‘The harvest is plenty, but the workers are few’ so let us pray for the workers! I was so blessed by Timothy’s testimony, I know it will be a blessing to you all as well. As always, brethren, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/africa-blog/post/timothys-testimony

Twisted Tuesday – Can God Act?

Good morning beloved friends! Today I want to talk about a twist in scripture that’s truly grievous to my heart. There’s a belief that God will not act unless a man prays for Him too. Is this Biblical? What happens when we take the full counsel of Gods Word into consideration?

This twist is really frightening to me, as it is an attempt for man to steal the glory from God. When a man suggests that God acts because he told Him too, who gets the glory? So often we twist Gods Word to demote Him to the level of man, while we promote man to the level of God. With such a low view of God is it really any wonder people have no joy, peace, or contentment?

When we recognize that the sovereign God, Creator of the universe, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, condescended to become man, took on the punishment for our sins, died for our iniquity, rose again for our justification, and now sits at the right hand of the most High, we can proclaim loudly with the other saints ‘Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me? I once was lost, but now I’m found! Was blind, but now I see!’ Praise God!

If you believe you can tell God what to do, might I suggest that you’ve forgotten to take the full counsel of Gods Word? We do not pray to get God to act, He is working even until today! Because He acts, we pray! Because He wrought such a work within us, the act of redemption, salvation, sanctification, and justification, we pray. If the god you worship is not a sovereign god then you’ve created an idol in your own image. You need to work through your salvation with fear and trembling. The Biblical God is the only one and true God. It is His Son, Jesus Christ, which died for our sins, by faith in Him alone can man be saved. Beloved brethren, this is why we must continue to be good Berean’s and study to show ourselves approved.

Thursday Book Review – Discernment Needed

Beloved, this month, during the Reformations 500th anniversary, I’ve been talking about different books not to read. I’m going to do that in a different way today. I’m going to suggest a couple writers with whom I would highly suggest you stay away from.


A little leaven, leavens the whole lump. A glass filled with pure beautifully clean water, with a tiny drop of poison will still kill you. These two people may be encouraging, or uplifting, but they’re both preaching a different gospel then the one which saves. There are other ways to get encouraged and uplifted than handing our money over to those who propagate a damning message leading millions of confused and blinded sinners to hell.


Joel Osteen, and Joyce Meyers. I pick these two because they really represent two groups of main stream liberalism in the church. New Age WoF and Universalism.

Joyce Meyers, whether you realize it or not, has mixed a massive amount of New Age theology into her beliefs. The idea that we can ‘Change our mind to change our life’ is not a Biblically based belief. That is New Age, it’s mystisism, not Christianity. Your thoughts do not send out messages to the cosmos, positive thinking might be better for your health, but the universe doesn’t react to it. I know this is hard, I was actually a really big fan of hers before becoming saved. I had a lot of her books, and loved to watch her program on TBN. She is a false teacher, her gospel is not the Gospel of the Bible.


Joel Osteen is probably more obvious, he has literally denied Christ on national television several times. We need to avoid his books, beloved, like the plague. The only time we should give him is to pray for him, and his wife. Just like Meyers, I was also a huge fan of Osteen before getting saved. I praise God for the discernment He gives, and for the respectable men He has raised up today to speak out against these false prophets.


I added a few video clips at the bottom in case you want to hear more on this matter. I pray God will give us all a greater portion of discernment, beloved. As always, be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved. 

It’s no Cake Walk

Are we running a race, or playing a game of Cake Walk? 


How many pastors will get up this Sunday and preach a sermon about self love, confidence, or even health and wealth? Probably a grand majority of the professional Ear Scratchers. How many will get up and preach a message that’s actually relevant to the sheep living in a fallen, cursed, world? Too few.

I think this is a contributing factor to the rapidly decreasing percentage of church attendance. If I want to get a pep talk I can turn on Joel Osteen without wasting gas money. I can get a great frap at McDonalds now for two bucks less then most ‘church coffee bars’ are making them. If I want great music I can book myself tickets to my favorite band. All the ‘church growth’ models are failing because they’re making the church like the world. Believers go to church to get away from worldliness, not to wallow in it.


What happens then when a pastor stands up on Sundays and preaches the Cake Walk? The members are ill prepared for the race they’re running. How discouraging to go throughout the week facing temptation, mockery, exhaustion, and the general wear and tear of life, only to have the leader of your church pat you on the shoulder and tell you how great life is. Your best life now? 

What if my child just died? How do I have my best life now? What if my husband just left me? Is this as good as it gets? What if I got fired and I don’t know how I’m going to make rent? I’ve heard Jeremiah 29:11, got anything for how to pay rent? How about for the wretched sinner? Is there anything in the Bible for sinners? Or are you just going to stand there and tell me stories about how you climbed a mountain and saw a beautiful view?


Oh beloved, how do men who read the Bible stand and say such foolishness? They have to, because they began the false doctrine they teach with a lie. That lie is that if you come to Christ everything will get better. You’ll be healed, your marriage will be fixed, your income will be multiplied. If they’ve gotten you into their churches by convincing you that Christianity is all about the worldly gifts, they have to keep repeating that lie.

It becomes very dangerous when someone finally stands up and says ‘hey, I came here for a Cake Walk but all I’ve had in this life is trials and tribulations’. The danger isn’t in the question, it’s in the answer. ‘Friend’, the Joel Osteen wanna be will say ‘you just don’t have enough faith. You just need to sow a bigger seed.’ What heavy burdens they have placed on their flock, burdens they are unwilling to help carry!


Christianity is not a Cake Walk, it’s a race. You don’t run this race to get a bigger house, or more attention from your spouse, you run it for the glory of God. Why glory in God? He sent His only begotten Son that whosoever shall believe in Him shall not parish but have ever lasting life. He is worthy of all honor, praise, and glory! 

Beloved, there are scores of people, an entire harvest of them, who have been disenfranchised by the health and wealth false gospel. We only need to be courageous enough to share the true Gospel with them. I have a simple suggestion, brethren, Gospel tracks. Did you know that people are still finding, reading, and coming to saving grace through Gospel tracks? My daughter and I have a blast finding different places to leave them in hopes that the lost will be found. 

Run your race well, dear ones, as always be good Berean’s and study to show yourselves approved.

Balance – Rock the Boat

Last Friday I spoke on my concerns over the WoF movement. I realized after writing that post that I’ve shared my personal testimony, and my immediate stumble into legalism, but I have yet to tell you all how I was brought out of the Word of Faith movement specifically. Actually once saved discernment was given and I no longer watched the televangelist preachers I had previously loved. I didn’t understand at first why I was so uncomfortable watching them. I even felt guilty, like I was somehow betraying them.

Romans-12

A year went by and a friend of mine, who I had met in a Church of God as a teenager, sent me a link to the Strange Fire conference. It was not what rocked the boat, it was what helped balanced the boat after salvation had rocked it. I had been praying for understanding for a year, and while I could open my Bible, read, study, and understand, the bigger picture was missing. What was so wrong about the Word of Faith? Something was off I knew it, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. That same friend was saved not long after sending me the link, and I praise God for His mercy!

What happened to balance the boat after devouring every video of the conference? It has a beautiful name, it’s called ‘sound doctrine’ and once introduced to it, I can’t get enough! How truly wonderful it is to hear men proclaim Gods Word, not the parts they like, twisted and out of context, but the full counsel of it! There’s only one problem, my wicked heart that seems to love extremes.

Jeremiah-17:9

If you have any slight form of OCD you understand the deep need for balance, straight lines, equal amounts of steps on both the right and left foot, the same amount of bites on one side of the mouth as the other, balance folks! Balance! Just me? That’s ok…follow me here. I want to swing violently to the opposite side of this pendulum. After sitting under spiritual abuse by the scripturally ignorant I cringe at the idea of following anything that would bring God dishonor or grieve the Holy Spirit.

Due to this, it is a daily task to keep the balance, don’t rock the boat. Left foot, right foot. I tend to reject the miraculous immediately, without hesitation, although my heart was miraculously changed and I was saved by Gods great grace! Balance. We’re not told to reject the spirits, we’re told to test them. I can’t do that without better balance then I have right now. I hope you’ll pray for me, beloved brethren, as we grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, together. Through your fellowship, in the past few months, I’ve been corrected, rebuked, chastened, encouraged, edified, instructed, and blessed.

First-John-1:6-7

I have a lot to learn, and a long way to go on this pilgrimage to the Celestial City. One thing I know for certain, you all have been a tremendous help to me. I suppose I started this post out meaning to tell you more about myself, if I’ve derailed there’s a simple explanation…you have all had a profound impact on me. Your blogs are all unique, they each give a piece of the person writing like you’ve all set about each day to add to the edifying of the body of Christ. It’s a beautiful way to keep myself balanced.

Thank-You

So today I thank you all for being good Berean’s and studying to show yourselves approved! If you ever think you make no difference, think again friends.

Playing With Fire


I’ve been wanting to address this concern for a while, and am thankful to finally have this opportunity. Many of you know I was in the Word of Faith movement for over a decade. I spent that time in primarily Pentecostal leaning non-denominational churches. I have been greatly encouraged by the amount of material I’ve read in varies blogs exposing the Prosperity Gospels heretical teaching here on WordPress, like our sister in Christ Nikki does in her blog. There’s one point I want to add, and it’s the danger for the youth involved in this movement.

I can only speak to my personal experiences within the southern United States. I have no idea if this is a southern phenomenon, but my fear is that it is related to the movement in general and not a geographical region. I want to preface this with what I saw at church camp as a teenager.


Flashing lights, fog machines, methodical music, emotional speaking and the general drumming up of a thousand children in a big auditorium. This resulted, as the event planners had hoped, in drunkenness in the ‘spirit’, with wild manifestations of tongues which included laughter, crying, and belligerent screaming. These are youths from 10 up to 18, who were being taught how to be ‘slain in the spirit’. I can remember one night during that week of ‘church’ camp praying at the alter to be given the ‘spirit’ for so long that my legs went numb. 

This video gives you a better look at what we’re seeing here in modern WoF churches.

Now these children go home from camp expecting daily increases of this ‘spiritual’ gifting. However, what they find is that without the phycological manipulation they are unable to get whipped up in the same kind of frenzy. So, in a culture where ghost hunting shows are a dime a dozen, they turn to the occult. This is the warning I want to give you, brethren. There were multiple groups of youth I knew who turned to occultism, it ties in easily with the WoF movement, so they would be out all night Friday and Saturday looking for demons, and in church on Sunday bored to tears. We lived, as youth, looking for the next great manifestation of the ‘spirit’. This explains why Bethel is having such success recruiting young people to their ‘school’. 

If you want to see more on this, here is a clip from the Strange Fire Conference…

This is very dangerous for the young people in church. Please, if you’re a parent to a young child or youth member, monitor what they’re watching or listening to. Don’t assume because it is a ‘Christian’ band, or church video that it’s safe for them. The wolves are not lurking outside our churches, they’re boldly standing within. As always, beloved, be good Bereans and study to show yourselves approved.

Twisted Tuesday – What We Deserve

#TrueGospel #SavedByGrace #ChristAlone

There is a pervasive lie that is constantly, boldly proclaimed from pulpits all over America. You hear it every time you turn on Christian TV. You find it typed in a million different ways throughout social media. What is this lie? The lie is that what you, and I, really deserve…no…what God owes us…is happiness.

This lie is a falsehood of the worse kind. It plays on humanities most deprived instincts, at the same time refuting everything the Bible says about mankinds wickedness.

What is the truth? That you, and I, deserve to be judged by a righteous judge whom we have sinned against. You see, friends, we have turned what is good evil and what is evil we have made good. If God is a righteous judge full of justice then the only thing He can do to law breakers is to convict them. When we disregard the miraculous blessings God has given by believing the lie that all is owed us, all we’ve received is deserved, we steal the glory from God rather than freely handing it up to Him in awestruck wonder.

I’ve heard it put in this way as an example: How do you feel when a man kills another man? He should get retribution right? What if a man cruelty beats a woman to death? That’s worse, is it not? What if a man sexually abused a child, then buries her alive? This happened in Florida, I believe, several years ago. People didn’t cry for justice alone, they cried out for severe punishment against this man who sinned against an innocent, defenseless, child.

Do you see how the act of murder feels far worse when it is committed against innocence? However, when we sin against a perfect, righteous, God we think we deserve…happiness? What then, if we commit a life of sin against God, rejecting the very Son He sent to pay the debt we owed for that sin? Do we still deserve happiness?


No, brethren, we deserve eternal damnation. There is no such thing as a good person. We are all wretched, wicked human beings in the hands of a just God. When we tell the world that they deserve to be happy, and that saying a quick prayer will garner them that happiness, along with health and wealth, we have blasphemed the name of God. He is not a genie in a bottle, He is the righteous, sovereign, judge.

What good have we gained if we have the love of the whole world, but have damned them all to hell? Do we so desire the approval of man that we are unwilling to warn of the destruction to come?


This is not to say that we, who have heard the true gospel and have converted and been saved, are not happy. The joy, awe, and peace the Father gives is, on its own, more than we deserve. Add to this salvation, justification, sanctification, prayer, study, fellowship, and worship…why would the believer not be in a constant state of joy? From grace to grace, as our minds can comprehend what’s been done for us we also understand how wretched we are and how little we deserve it.

This is the difference between the spoiled child demanding blessings from their parents, and the servant who cherishes the kind words or thankful smiles they received from time to time.

How does this American Gospel of happiness, health and wealth play out in third world countries? How will you tell those who are starving, living in trash heaps, or eating dirt cookies that they deserve to be happy? They just need to be a little more positive, think happier thoughts, right? No, this lie only applies to those who are in wealthy countries. We need to seek the full counsel of God’s Word, so that the doctrines of demons do not become our doctrines. This is why I extol you, beloved, be good Bereans and study to show yourselves approved.

Twisted Tuesday – The Vanity Fair Church

#TwistedTuesday #SeekerSensitive

Beloved, I’m going to discuss something that many others have addressed already. It needs to be repeated, then repeated again, until Christ comes back. The church does not meet on the Lords day to entertain the goats. The church does not meet any day of the week to entertain the goats. John 3:16 is the scripture being taken out of context, for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.


What is happening in modern churches today is that shepherds are starving the sheep to feed the goats, believing they should bring the whole world in. Rather than expounding Gods Word, exhorting believers, edifying the body, and growing in grace and knowledge, they are busy being ‘relevant’. Why would the church ever feel the need to compete with the world, when friendship with the world is enmity with God? This stems from the desire to have the approval of man rather than the approval of God. It’s also the reason why the back door of these churches are as busy as the front door because the church can not out world the world.

We are supposed to be separate from the world, in it but not of it. The idea of ‘seeker sensitive’ churches needs to be deconstructed. Whom are the seekers? Christ said all those who seek Him will He in no ways cast out. He also said that His sheep hear His voice. Are goats the seekers then? Of course not, the unbelievers filling the churches would sue if they heard a sermon on sin. But Christ told people to go and sin no more, seekers are sheep that know His voice.


What then is the benefit of bringing a mass of unbelievers into a service and entertaining them? They never hear the gospel or repentance, thus they go without salvation. I see two benefits of running a church in this manner, praise for the pastor, and cash in the collection plate. We are called to neither of these ends. Are these ‘churches’ really just the blind leading the blind?

I have a family member who will not hear the gospel or step foot in a church because he believes they are all just businesses making money. This is the danger of setting aside the great commission, to sell our soul and gain the world. In the end, the world will reject them, the gospel is smeared, Gods name is blasphemed, and the sheep go unfed. Please brethren, encourage your pastor and elders to uphold the Word of God and reject the Vanity Fair Church.

As always, friends, be good Bereans and study to show yourselves approved.